The Rebuild...

[Cousin Strawberry]

No cups either (dave andreychuks cup was all big boys)

[Chef Boi RD]

No cups either (dave andreychuks cup was all big boys)

Old school has flown the coup, with the dodo birds and black rhinos now. The Ryan Clowes have been replaced by speed and skill!!

[nuckster]

Just considering the 're-build' and where we are today and what is a reasonable time line for a rebuild.

JB was brought on-board after the 2013-14 season where we finished 36-35-11 (bye Loungo and bye Kesler). He re-tooled and the following season, 14-15, the Canucks finished 48-29-5 and made a quick departure in the first round of play-offs to Calgary. The following 3 seasons, 15-16, 16-17, and 17-18, the Canucks finished no better than 31-38-13, now this season appears to be in the same ilk as the last 4.

If i recall correctly, JB never acknowledged actually pursuing a rebuild until late in the 15-16 season. So here we are in the 18-19 season - 3 years into the rebuild. So what do u think, what's a reasonable time span for a rebuild? How long does mgt. put up with being on the losing side of the ledger? In each of those losing years we should be able count on high draft picks sticking with the club. Might we also have the expectation of accumulating a few quality free agents as well (not talking about Eriksson here)?

So next season is year 4 of the rebuild you have to believe that the gig will be up - neither ownership nor long-suffering fans should have to endure any more of the sub-par bleah that we've been fed. Ole JB needs to be behind a turn of the tide so-to-speak or he's gone - but this is just my opinion. What do others believe is a reasonable time period for orchestrating a rebuild?

[Cornuck]

I'm not as concerned with saying a rebuild should take X number of years, but I expect progress through those years.

All we saw this year was a rookie with extreme skill and a goalie find his game. Without those two, we wouldn't have improved much (if any) over last year.

Next year we should see a real jump with fresh bodies on D, a steady goalie from the start, and more experience up front.

[5thhorseman]

The Aquas would be idiots if they fired the GM who stole a generational player in the draft. A lot hinges on Petey's sophomore season.

[Mickey107]

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More experienced driver might help too. With the rebuild that is.

[Richardstroker69]

Just considering the 're-build' and where we are today and what is a reasonable time line for a rebuild.

JB was brought on-board after the 2013-14 season where we finished 36-35-11 (bye Loungo and bye Kesler). He re-tooled and the following season, 14-15, the Canucks finished 48-29-5 and made a quick departure in the first round of play-offs to Calgary. The following 3 seasons, 15-16, 16-17, and 17-18, the Canucks finished no better than 31-38-13, now this season appears to be in the same ilk as the last 4.

If i recall correctly, JB never acknowledged actually pursuing a rebuild until late in the 15-16 season. So here we are in the 18-19 season - 3 years into the rebuild. So what do u think, what's a reasonable time span for a rebuild? How long does mgt. put up with being on the losing side of the ledger? In each of those losing years we should be able count on high draft picks sticking with the club. Might we also have the expectation of accumulating a few quality free agents as well (not talking about Eriksson here)?

So next season is year 4 of the rebuild you have to believe that the gig will be up - neither ownership nor long-suffering fans should have to endure any more of the sub-par bleah that we've been fed. Ole JB needs to be behind a turn of the tide so-to-speak or he's gone - but this is just my opinion. What do others believe is a reasonable time period for orchestrating a rebuild?

Rebuilds happen quicker when you get a first overall. Benning never got close to a pick like that. Look at Winnipeg, they’ve sucked forever, but I think we should see a marked improvement next year.

[Cornuck]

As for the whole "rebuild" - I feel I've been watching a 50 (SO) year rebuild. Or is it a "Build" - since we really haven't built a championship team, yet?

[5thhorseman]

It would be nice to get a first overall pick, but I wouldn't sweat it if we don't get one. Look through the list; there's a ton of guys drafted first who never got near a Stanley Cup final round.

[Mickey107]

I sometimes wonder what may have been if the "lockout" of 94/95 had not occurred.

[rats19]

As for the whole "rebuild" - I feel I've been watching a 50 (SO) year rebuild. Or is it a "Build" - since we really haven't built a championship team, yet?

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[Blob Mckenzie]

It would be nice to get a first overall pick, but I wouldn't sweat it if we don't get one. Look through the list; there's a ton of guys drafted first who never got near a Stanley Cup final round.

I feel like Petey is a first overall talent. Elmer’s just got to slash the deadweight off the roster and add picks and prospects. And he can’t stub his toe in the top 10 anymore. Look at the Jets. Chevy hasn’t had a first round flop in 8 or 9 years. They just keep drafting quality players.

[Carl Yagro]

As for the whole "rebuild" - I feel I've been watching a 50 (SO) year rebuild. Or is it a "Build" - since we really haven't built a championship team, yet?

Rebuilds happen quicker when you get a first overall. Benning never got close to a pick like that. Look at Winnipeg, they’ve sucked forever, but I think we should see a marked improvement next year.

So, you guys are saying a 3 year rebuild isn't really that long comparatively speaking.

Aqua certainly didn't fire Gillis to rebuild. And he certainly DID NOT hire Torts with a rich 5 year contract to rebuild.

Then he didn't hire Linden the goodwill ambassador to fire Torts with 4 years remaining after a disastrous year to rebuild. And he wouldn't have hired ANY management team to rebuild because the family always has playoff revenues in their sights. Anyone really think that any incoming GM would say "Nah, Francesco, I'm going to do what's good for you and blow this thing up" after he got hired? Seriously?

Do you get hired for a job, then show up to do the exact opposite of the job description?

Then after the terrible Canuck Luck where a weak team managed to eke into the playoffs only to be dusted by the Flames, Aqua was probably very disappointed but still didn't outwardly support a rebuild.

It was only until recently (after ousting Linden) that you heard the horse actually say to the supporters that they like their youth and need to preach patience... the same owner who didn't like Trev's message about patience.

So, if you looked at the real direction (the Aquas), it certainly hasn't been that long compared to some other teams that are still rebuilding. There's some really dire areas (cough, defencemen) but even fans can admit we're a team on the upswing.

Sure, it's 50 years, but that is the Hockey Gods' test for us.

RE: Winnipeg. That is an incredible record of successful 1st round picks which is definitely not the norm or league average. Something to try to model but who's to say anyone can model that? You have to be both good and lucky... and that's not the Canucks

[Per]

As for the whole "rebuild" - I feel I've been watching a 50 (SO) year rebuild. Or is it a "Build" - since we really haven't built a championship team, yet?

We had a championship team in 2011, but got robbed.

[Blob Mckenzie]

As for the whole "rebuild" - I feel I've been watching a 50 (SO) year rebuild. Or is it a "Build" - since we really haven't built a championship team, yet?

We had a championship team in 2011, but got robbed.

We got outscored 23-8 in 7 games