The Rebuild...

[Cherry Picker]

So next summer all the current left-sided defensemen need new contracts: Edler (UFA), Del Zotto (UFA), Hutton (RFA) and Pouliot (RFA). While the right side of the defense is very shallow as far as prospects are concerned, the left side of the defense is the deepest area for Canuck prospects. By next summer they could possibly have any of Hughes, Juolevi, Sautner, Brisebois, McEneney, Brassard, Tryamkin, Rathbone, and Utunen signed and available.

So the question is, should the Canucks resign any of the current defensemen? If so who? I’m kind of thinking not re-signing anyone might be best way to create room for the up and coming players who have more potential. I could imagine Edler being asked to resign, but only for a short-term contract. But I doubt he’d want to resign for anything less than 4 years. The others may not have much upside and could forseeably be moved out.

So the next question is, if they do not plan to resign any of the current four defensemen can they afford to waive Sautner, who needs to clear waivers, this year? Sautner played adequately down the stretch as a 6th Dman. Though it is unlikely, it is possible he might be taken by another team if he is waived. Also shouldn’t the team be trying to get more young guys experience at the NHL level before all the veterans are gone. Shouldn’t the Canucks get at least one or two defenseman a full years experience while they are surrounded by vets if they are turning over the left-side of the defense in the next twelve months?

[Blob Mckenzie]

Who here thinks it’s a good thing we actually have enough decent young players that it’s possible we may lose some for nothing on waivers? I’m loving it.

I don’t see any decent young players being lost on waivers

[ESQ]

Who here thinks it’s a good thing we actually have enough decent young players that it’s possible we may lose some for nothing on waivers? I’m loving it.

I don’t see any decent young players being lost on waivers

I would take a Frankie Corrado as the high-point of players lost on waivers. Not good enough for the Canucks, not good enough for the Leaves, but juuuust enough potential that the Leaves didn't want to expose him again.

Hutton and Stecher's contracts probably keep them from being claimed. Biega's contract probably guarantees he gets claimed.

Leipsic and Goldy are young enough and have shown enough potential that they likely get claimed. Jake would definitely be claimed. Boeser obviously. When Tryamkin returns, he obviously would be claimed.

[Madcombinepilot]

Biega's contract probably guarantees he gets claimed.

I disagree. What team grabs a #8 defenceman that they will 100% guarantee to pay close to a million a year to play in the AHL? its a 1 way contract. every team has a guy (or 2) in this position that nobody else will claim. I think Biega's contract ensures he clears waivers.

Only reason Biega would ever get picked up is because some other team thinks that at 875k (or whatever he makes) is a good deal.. its not a 'good deal'. its what a #8 defenceman gets paid in the NHL. this makes it an average deal that every other team already has, or can sign anywhere.

I guess if another team feels Biega is a #5 or 6 Dman, then he would get picked up..

[Mickey107]

So next summer all the current left-sided defensemen need new contracts: Edler (UFA), Del Zotto (UFA), Hutton (RFA) and Pouliot (RFA). While the right side of the defense is very shallow as far as prospects are concerned, the left side of the defense is the deepest area for Canuck prospects. By next summer they could possibly have any of Hughes, Juolevi, Sautner, Brisebois, McEneney, Brassard, Tryamkin, Rathbone, and Utunen signed and available.

So the question is, should the Canucks resign any of the current defensemen? If so who? I’m kind of thinking not re-signing anyone might be best way to create room for the up and coming players who have more potential. I could imagine Edler being asked to resign, but only for a short-term contract. But I doubt he’d want to resign for anything less than 4 years. The others may not have much upside and could forseeably be moved out.

So the next question is, if they do not plan to resign any of the current four defensemen can they afford to waive Sautner, who needs to clear waivers, this year? Sautner played adequately down the stretch as a 6th Dman. Though it is unlikely, it is possible he might be taken by another team if he is waived. Also shouldn’t the team be trying to get more young guys experience at the NHL level before all the veterans are gone. Shouldn’t the Canucks get at least one or two defenseman a full years experience while they are surrounded by vets if they are turning over the left-side of the defense in the next twelve months?

Information has been sketchy at best in regards to the progress of Juolevi. A young man who, with the temporary departure of Hughes, will
have all eyes on him in camp. All of a sudden, it's a big deal!
He absolutely must know that now.
If we see anything less than an all out, give it shit, effort to make the club, it will be a disappointment, no?

[Island Nucklehead]

Biega's contract probably guarantees he gets claimed.

I disagree. What team grabs a #8 defenceman that they will 100% guarantee to pay close to a million a year to play in the AHL? its a 1 way contract. every team has a guy (or 2) in this position that nobody else will claim. I think Biega's contract ensures he clears waivers.

Only reason Biega would ever get picked up is because some other team thinks that at 875k (or whatever he makes) is a good deal.. its not a 'good deal'. its what a #8 defenceman gets paid in the NHL. this makes it an average deal that every other team already has, or can sign anywhere.

I guess if another team feels Biega is a #5 or 6 Dman, then he would get picked up..

Exactly. Additionally, come training camp EVERYONE is putting their marginal depth players on waivers in order to demote them.

If Biega is claimed, you're almost certain to find a capable replacement elsewhere on the waiver wire.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Information has been sketchy at best in regards to the progress of Juolevi. A young man who, with the temporary departure of Hughes, will
have all eyes on him in camp. All of a sudden, it's a big deal!
He absolutely must know that now.
If we see anything less than an all out, give it shit, effort to make the club, it will be a disappointment, no?

He hasn't really shown the potential of his draft year since he was chosen at 5 or whatever. I think this has been suprising considering how well he was projected leading up to being picked that high.

I'm thinking he might be dealing with the dreaded confidence problem...find a way to cure it and you have yourself a steady eddy 2nd pair guy who can move the puck

[Blob Mckenzie]

Who here thinks it’s a good thing we actually have enough decent young players that it’s possible we may lose some for nothing on waivers? I’m loving it.

I don’t see any decent young players being lost on waivers

I would take a Frankie Corrado as the high-point of players lost on waivers. Not good enough for the Canucks, not good enough for the Leaves, but juuuust enough potential that the Leaves didn't want to expose him again.

Hutton and Stecher's contracts probably keep them from being claimed. Biega's contract probably guarantees he gets claimed.

Leipsic and Goldy are young enough and have shown enough potential that they likely get claimed. Jake would definitely be claimed. Boeser obviously. When Tryamkin returns, he obviously would be claimed.

Obviously they aren’t exposing Boeser or Virtanen. Tryamkin if he ever comes back would not be waived.

Guys like Leipsic and Goldobin are available every year in waivers and I can’t see both of them hitting the waiver wire.

[Richardstroker69]

Who here thinks it’s a good thing we actually have enough decent young players that it’s possible we may lose some for nothing on waivers? I’m loving it.

I don’t see any decent young players being lost on waivers

I would take a Frankie Corrado as the high-point of players lost on waivers. Not good enough for the Canucks, not good enough for the Leaves, but juuuust enough potential that the Leaves didn't want to expose him again.

Hutton and Stecher's contracts probably keep them from being claimed. Biega's contract probably guarantees he gets claimed.

Leipsic and Goldy are young enough and have shown enough potential that they likely get claimed. Jake would definitely be claimed. Boeser obviously. When Tryamkin returns, he obviously would be claimed.

Obviously they aren’t exposing Boeser or Virtanen. Tryamkin if he ever comes back would not be waived.

Guys like Leipsic and Goldobin are available every year in waivers and I can’t see both of them hitting the waiver wire.

My point was the fact we actually have enough depth on the team that waivers are an actual thing.

[Cornuck]

My point was the fact we actually have enough depth on the team that worrying about waivers are an actual thing.

FYP

[Mickey107]

https://www.thesportster.com/hockey/15- ... n-the-nhl/

[Mickey107]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/2482 ... ff-chances

[Hockey Widow]

https://www.thesportster.com/hockey/15- ... n-the-nhl/

What has this got to do with the rebuild

[Hockey Widow]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/2482 ... ff-chances

What are they saying that hasn’t been said/written already by every hockey pundit and wanna be pundit.

Is there a point to you dropping links without explanation?

[rats19]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/2482 ... ff-chances

What are they saying that hasn’t been said/written already by every hockey pundit and wanna be pundit.

Is there a point to you dropping links without explanation?

I think he was referring to the prospect depth that was mentioned and how the projected doesn’t always equal the actual... BICBW