The Rebuild...

[Blob Mckenzie]

Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter Granlund
Gagner Beagle Lipstick
Roussel Kero Motte
Goldobin Petterson Dahlen
Gaudette Gaunce Virtanen

May as well re up Dowd and Archibald as well.


Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Pouliott Biega
Hutton Stecher
Juolevi Hughes

Markstrom
Nilsson
Demko


LOL what a mess

[Topper]

lipstick the hoople are the new chaput and megma

[Strangelove]

Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter Granlund
Gagner Beagle Lipstick
Roussel Kero Motte
Goldobin Petterson Dahlen
Gaudette Gaunce Virtanen

The off-season is young Blob.

I know this is a foreign concept to you but... patience?

There may be trades.

Also, nothing wrong with competition for jobs.

Barring a miracle, Kero and Motte will play for the Comets this year.

A few others are waive-able, a few are flush-able.

I don't see a problem, maybe shakes out something like this:


Lipstick/ Baertschi – Horvat – Boeser
Dahlen – Gagner – Pettersson
Eriksson/ Gaudette – Sutter – Virtanen
Roussel - Beagle – Schaller
Gaunce /Granlund


Who knows at this point, many possibilities... and that's a good thing.

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Pouliott Biega
Hutton Stecher
Juolevi Hughes

I have a feeling both of those Huttons will be traded.

Markstrom
Nilsson
Demko

Shrug, looks good to me...

[Blob Mckenzie]

That’s still 16 forwards

I am patient. It’s the IGC crew that isn’t.

I’ve been advocating building through the draft and adding picks while IGC only want the standard amount of picks and not one extra.

[Strangelove]

the standard amount of picks and not one extra

... as long as ALSO other "young developing players" are coming in - YES

The overall potential of those "young developing players" that came in

... is/was greater than any extra picks we could have had.

[Blob Mckenzie]

the standard amount of picks and not one extra

... as long as ALSO other "young developing players" are coming in - YES

The overall potential of those "young developing players" that came in

... is/was greater than any extra picks we could have had.

Lol not even close

[Strangelove]

Lol not even close

Wrong.

[DonCherry4PM]

Lol not even close

Wrong.

I tend to think that given JB's potential drafting success, Blob is correct. Pretty sure JB could have drafted players much better than the reclamation players he acquired.

But perhaps you are correct, perhaps JB's drafting isn't nearly as good as we think it is and perhaps said players will turn out to be of more value than picks would have. We should have a pretty good indication in the next few years though - to see how his picks, particularly later round picks, turn out.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Lol not even close

Wrong.

I tend to think that given JB's potential drafting success, Blob is correct. Pretty sure JB could have drafted players much better than the reclamation players he acquired.

But perhaps you are correct, perhaps JB's drafting isn't nearly as good as we think it is and perhaps said players will turn out to be of more value than picks would have. We should have a pretty good indication in the next few years though - to see how his picks, particularly later round picks, turn out.

The thing is, guys like the six slugs they pissed valuable assets away for are available every year July 1 or on waivers. Keep the picks for fuck sakes.

IGC can’t see the forest for the trees. Too impatient to wait for picks to develop.

IGC can’t handle a rebuild

[Strangelove]

Lol not even close

Wrong.

I tend to think that given JB's potential drafting success, Blob is correct. Pretty sure JB could have drafted players much better than the reclamation players he acquired.

But perhaps you are correct, perhaps JB's drafting isn't nearly as good as we think it is and perhaps said players will turn out to be of more value than picks would have. We should have a pretty good indication in the next few years though - to see how his picks, particularly later round picks, turn out.

Well that was evil....

On a lighter note, I must have hit a nerve when I said Blob "Doesn't Watch Games" Mckenzie can't handle a rebuild.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Not really..., I haven’t watched Megna and Chaput and Motte with baited breath like yourself.

I’m a fan of young kids with potential and a future.

I won’t waste my time watching after game 50 when the team refuses to play kids and trots out a pack of worthless veterans.

[Ronning's Ghost]

The events of the past few weeks may have been enough for us to make some inferences about the Canucks ownership/management group's team-building strategy in the post-Sedin era.

There are two categories of abilities that teams need to succeed in the NHL: A) skill/speed and B) size/grit/toughness. Some players combine substantive amounts of elements of both categories, but these are relatively rare, highly valued, and available only at a premium. (Gordie Howe)

There are three ways to get players: draft, trade, and free-agency. All players command a premium in free-agency, but size/grit/toughness costs less than skill/speed. Thus a 25% over-payment for Antoine Roussel will cost a smaller absolute number of cap dollars than a 25% over-payment for Loui Eriksson.

Therefore, the new strategy is to draft exclusively for skill/speed, and then hire size/grit/toughness.

It's a small sample-size, and could have been just a fluke of who was available when the Canucks numbers came up at the 2018 draft, and who was available and affordable in 2018 free-agency, but it will be interesting to see if the pattern repeats next year.

[Cherry Picker]

I don’t think it’s a strategy they considered. BPA in the draft were small, and the team was pushed around last year. When you look at the roster it is apparent the team needs grit. Teams use free agency and trades to upgrade and to fill holes, but draft for BPA. If Dorsett hadn’t been injured and Archibald had been more effective they may not have signed the players they did today.

[Jovocop]

I don’t think it’s a strategy they considered. BPA in the draft were small, and the team was pushed around last year. When you look at the roster it is apparent the team needs grit. Teams use free agency and trades to upgrade and to fill holes, but draft for BPA. If Dorsett hadn’t been injured and Archibald had been more effective they may not have signed the players they did today.

Or Gaunce and Dowd have a little bit more bite to their games.

[Cherry Picker]

Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter Granlund
Gagner Beagle Lipstick
Roussel Kero Motte
Goldobin Petterson Dahlen
Gaudette Gaunce Virtanen

May as well re up Dowd and Archibald as well.


Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Pouliott Biega
Hutton Stecher
Juolevi Hughes

Markstrom
Nilsson
Demko


LOL what a mess

I’ll try to clear up the mess. I’ll bold the players that are on a short leash and likely to be traded or waived. You put some of the best prospects too low, and some of the worst too high. From Benning’s comments yesterday. It sounds like Gaudette and Pettersson are both at least penciled in the line-up as scoring forwards, and he wants to sign Hughes. While those things could change, I think the starting line-up October 3rd is more likely something like this:

Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Gaudette Pettersson
Roussel Sutter Virtanen
Schaller Beagle Granlund
Gagner

With Gaunce, Archibald, Goldobin, Motte and Leipsic trying to take one of Granlund or Gagner’s jobs. But it won’t really matter because in the long run one will go to Dahlen and the other to Lind, Jasek or Gadjovick.

Tanev Hughes
Gudbranson Edler
Stecher De Zotto
Pouliot Hutton

With Juolevi and Sautner getting some call up time during the season.

Markstrom
Demko

I think Green has seen enough and wants to move on from Nilsson.