2016 Training camp
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Re: 2016 Training camp
Burrows has been OK. I don't think he should be on the team but we're not the GM. He might be dealt to a contender at the deadline for depth purposes. Burr does provide excellent leadership and experience and that will be pretty valuable to the young guys here. So, I am guessing Burr will often be the 13th forward? Anyway, It'll be interesting to see the final cuts and cheer on Burr in his final season.
Sedin/Sedin/Eriksson
Granlund/Sutter/Rodin
Baertschi/Horvat/Etem
Dorsett/Gaunce/Hansen
Burrows
Edler/Tanev
Hutton/Gudbranson
Sbisa/Larsen
Tryamkin/Biega
Just a guess here!
Sedin/Sedin/Eriksson
Granlund/Sutter/Rodin
Baertschi/Horvat/Etem
Dorsett/Gaunce/Hansen
Burrows
Edler/Tanev
Hutton/Gudbranson
Sbisa/Larsen
Tryamkin/Biega
Just a guess here!
Re: 2016 Training camp
Probably, none of the above.Mondi wrote:...can we really say that Burrows is over-the-hill and useless?
I haven't been watching the preseason, because well, the preseason sucks. But, if the preseason tell us little about the vets. Who's to say AB isn't going to be solid 4L player this season?
And, if the lines looks something like this:
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Bartchee Horvat Rodin/Virtanen(?)
Granlund(?) Sutter Hansen
Dorsett Gaunce Burrows
Etem
Who is the better alternative at this time? Is it Ruutu? Brooks Laich?
Might have to look outside the organization.
As long as Burrows is here, he has an effect on the rest of the guys.
"Try to feed Alex the puck, get him a goal, get him going again". That kind of stuff. No room for that.
Not in the NHL. Keep in mind, there no set shelf-life. His is done, you can tell.
My problem with Etem is he's way, way too laid back. No driving passion!
Another bad influence.
A SoCal boy drafted by a SoCal team. What did you think of his goal song last year?
A hint maybe of where he'd like to be?
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Re: 2016 Training camp
micky107 wrote:Probably, none of the above.Mondi wrote:...can we really say that Burrows is over-the-hill and useless?
I haven't been watching the preseason, because well, the preseason sucks. But, if the preseason tell us little about the vets. Who's to say AB isn't going to be solid 4L player this season?
And, if the lines looks something like this:
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Bartchee Horvat Rodin/Virtanen(?)
Granlund(?) Sutter Hansen
Dorsett Gaunce Burrows
Etem
Who is the better alternative at this time? Is it Ruutu? Brooks Laich?
Might have to look outside the organization.
As long as Burrows is here, he has an effect on the rest of the guys.
"Try to feed Alex the puck, get him a goal, get him going again". That kind of stuff. No room for that.
Not in the NHL. Keep in mind, there no set shelf-life. His is done, you can tell.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
Burrows effect on the rest of the guys, particularly the younger players, is to show them what it takes to earn a spot and put in the work to be a pro.
Re: 2016 Training camp
Burrows is still an elite penalty killer and if he can get 8-10 goals this season that's golden.Iceman2014 wrote:Burr does provide excellent leadership and experience and that will be pretty valuable to the young guys here.
Sedin/Sedin/Eriksson
Granlund/Sutter/Rodin
Baertschi/Horvat/Etem
Dorsett/Gaunce/Hansen
Burrows
I notice Virtanen is gone to Utica in your lineup, and I concur, notice the Red Wings make it a living hell to get into their veteran lineup?
And they made the playoffs 25 years straight, granted its a shitty organization to try to crack and they are notoriously old every year, but they are a good team nonetheless aha.
Anyways what I'm trying to say is Virtanen wouldn't make that team for another two years if he were there, they'd develop him in the AHL for at least a couple years, unless he pulled a Larkin and came out like an all-star, but Virtanen hasn't, he's like Mantha in that regard, decent shot, big fella but JV is a bit more faster and fluid skater.
But JV should be in the AHL this season, it'll piss him off and thats good, that's what we want from the young guy, get mad, get hungry, force your way back on the team when he gets his next chance.
We got a lot more 2nd/3rd line wingers this year that stepped up thus far in Granlund, Baertschi, Hansen and Rodin, JV on the 4th line would be great but it's a waste of his skillet to just be a crash and banger if he's expected to be better than Raffi Torres.
Developing JV in Utica will be great for both sides for this season.
Larsen being gifted a spot thus far thanks to the one way contract, even though Stecher has outplayed him, both have defensive deficiencies but mostly Larsen who had the worst corsi, shot differential on the team, when he was on the ice the opposing team starting blasting away shots on our net like a firing range. I don't think he makes our team better unless he'll be Krug-deployed used only in the offensive zone.Iceman2014 wrote: Edler/Tanev
Hutton/Gudbranson
Sbisa/Larsen
Tryamkin/Biega
I honestly think this Larsen experiment will end pretty quick.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Re: 2016 Training camp
Yes it does!!!micky107 wrote: Can't have the whole town brainwashed into the idea, it's only for one year and he'll be a mentor to the young.
It just doesn't work that way!!!
Sometimes you're just a tad too "full of yourself" + "out to lunch".micky107 wrote: Maybe you have to of played the game at a high level to know that is one of the worst things you can do to a dressing room and the mood of a team.
Bad combo good buddy.
The buyout window is closed.micky107 wrote: there may be other options, even a buyout if necessary, but waiting it out another year is procrastination or dreaming of something that doesn't exist.
You really are quite mad aren't you Fred!micky107 wrote: Hell, sticking Sbisa on a forward line would be better.
Stupid sexy Burrows?micky107 wrote: I like Burrows. So does most of the team. THAT'S the problem and the distraction.
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Re: 2016 Training camp
Agreed, buddy is mad as a hatter!Mëds wrote:micky107 wrote: As long as Burrows is here, he has an effect on the rest of the guys.
"Try to feed Alex the puck, get him a goal, get him going again". That kind of stuff. No room for that.
Not in the NHL. Keep in mind, there no set shelf-life. His is done, you can tell.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
Burrows effect on the rest of the guys, particularly the younger players, is to show them what it takes to earn a spot and put in the work to be a pro.
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Try to focus on someday.
Try to focus on someday.
Re: 2016 Training camp
Iceman2014 wrote:Burrows has been OK. I don't think he should be on the team but we're not the GM. He might be dealt to a contender at the deadline for depth purposes. Burr does provide excellent leadership and experience and that will be pretty valuable to the young guys here. So, I am guessing Burr will often be the 13th forward? Anyway, It'll be interesting to see the final cuts and cheer on Burr in his final season.
Sedin/Sedin/Eriksson
Granlund/Sutter/Rodin
Baertschi/Horvat/Etem
Dorsett/Gaunce/Hansen
Burrows
Edler/Tanev
Hutton/Gudbranson
Sbisa/Larsen
Tryamkin/Biega
Just a guess here!
Looks about right to me. Would rather see Stecher on the team and don't see Etem making it, but those are minor changes.
Will be in tough to do much of anything this year. If all goes right maybe a wildcard spot but that's about it.
Re: 2016 Training camp
At the minor league level, no longer at the NHL level. That's the "stuff" that will have to be accepted one day in order to proceed forward.Mëds wrote:micky107 wrote:Probably, none of the above.Mondi wrote:...can we really say that Burrows is over-the-hill and useless?
I haven't been watching the preseason, because well, the preseason sucks. But, if the preseason tell us little about the vets. Who's to say AB isn't going to be solid 4L player this season?
And, if the lines looks something like this:
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Bartchee Horvat Rodin/Virtanen(?)
Granlund(?) Sutter Hansen
Dorsett Gaunce Burrows
Etem
Who is the better alternative at this time? Is it Ruutu? Brooks Laich?
Might have to look outside the organization.
As long as Burrows is here, he has an effect on the rest of the guys.
"Try to feed Alex the puck, get him a goal, get him going again". That kind of stuff. No room for that.
Not in the NHL. Keep in mind, there no set shelf-life. His is done, you can tell.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
Burrows effect on the rest of the guys, particularly the younger players, is to show them what it takes to earn a spot and put in the work to be a pro.
"evolution"
Re: 2016 Training camp
I'm full of myself? LOL LOL LOL . Good one, coming from you.Strangelove wrote:Yes it does!!!micky107 wrote: Can't have the whole town brainwashed into the idea, it's only for one year and he'll be a mentor to the young.
It just doesn't work that way!!!
Sometimes you're just a tad too "full of yourself" + "out to lunch".micky107 wrote: Maybe you have to of played the game at a high level to know that is one of the worst things you can do to a dressing room and the mood of a team.
Bad combo good buddy.
The buyout window is closed.micky107 wrote: there may be other options, even a buyout if necessary, but waiting it out another year is procrastination or dreaming of something that doesn't exist.
You really are quite mad aren't you Fred!micky107 wrote: Hell, sticking Sbisa on a forward line would be better.
Stupid sexy Burrows?micky107 wrote: I like Burrows. So does most of the team. THAT'S the problem and the distraction.
You have far superior computer skills than I, for sure.
I could try to explain further on Burrows but, what's the point.
You won't get it until you get your head out of 2011, but that's just hockey stuff, not PC wizardry.
So if you want to attempt to incite me by calling me Fred again, that's cool.
I'll play along.
Here's your bone, Dino, go git it....
"evolution"
Re: 2016 Training camp
Benning has said that management would talk yesterday about the final cuts and moves, etc. Today's Monday. Wonder if they're deferring any moves until the end of this week?
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Re: 2016 Training camp
Final rosters must be set by Tuesday 5 PM.
Regular season begins Wednesday.
Regular season begins Wednesday.
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Re: 2016 Training camp
Of note today, PA Paranteau and Andrej Pavelec have been placed on waivers.
Still awaiting official word for the rest of the league.
Still awaiting official word for the rest of the league.
Re: 2016 Training camp
Stetcher and Bachman reassigned: https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/roster ... -282528662
...and so the Larssen era begins.
...and so the Larssen era begins.
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Re: 2016 Training camp
It will fail..Lancer wrote:Stetcher and Bachman reassigned: https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/roster ... -282528662
...and so the Larssen era begins.
"evolution"
Re: 2016 Training camp
Meh, I'm fine with it - a bit of six of one, half-dozen of the other between Stecher and Larsen.
I do believe Stecher has a higher upside, but it is his first year in pro. Interesting to see he was logging huge minutes in the pre-season, but his offense diminished as the competition got better. Larsen was only playing 17-18 minutes a game, but was relatively consistent.
I think Larsen still has some upside too, so I don't see the drawback to keeping him off waivers to see what he can do.
If we're looking for "the Next Hutton", I actually think either of Larsen or Stecher could follow a similar path over the next season.
I do believe Stecher has a higher upside, but it is his first year in pro. Interesting to see he was logging huge minutes in the pre-season, but his offense diminished as the competition got better. Larsen was only playing 17-18 minutes a game, but was relatively consistent.
I think Larsen still has some upside too, so I don't see the drawback to keeping him off waivers to see what he can do.
If we're looking for "the Next Hutton", I actually think either of Larsen or Stecher could follow a similar path over the next season.