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Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:06 pm Hard to think fractures are “training” related. Legs, ribs, back, wrist, finger etc. That’s bad luck.

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Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:06 pm So many injuries have come off shot blocks so that’s systems related I guess but do you want to take shot blocking out of the game?

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Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:54 pm or is this multi-year stretch of injuries just the result of bad luck and soft injury-prone players.

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:06 pm We’ve had players who were relatively healthy until they got to Vancouver and then they get a rash of fluk injuries. Ballard, Sutter and Gudbranson come to mind.

That argues against IN's hypothesis that management is undervaluing durability in assessing what a hockey player could bring to the organization.

Some blame travel, but the Canucks' travel schedule is not that much worse than some of their near neighbour franchises (Calgary, Edmonton, San Jose), but their injury record lately has been. (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11230&p=297835&hili ... hy#p297835)

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:06 pm Don’t know what it is.

I'm not sure, either, but the thing that they can change fastest and easiest is their training program.

Maybe someone should ask Sami Salo ?

Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:53 pm That argues against IN's hypothesis that management is undervaluing durability in assessing what a hockey player could bring to the organization.

Not sure that's my hypothesis. I seem to recall them touting Sutter's durability when he was acquired. If anything, I think management has a tendency to overvalue the THN scouting report (Sutter, Gudbranson) in their player evaluation.

Durability is such a tricky "attribute" to judge that it's probably not a trait worth seeking out in player acquisition. Bandaids/injury-prone players, on the other hand, are easy to spot and should probably be avoided (unless they come at a steep discount).

Gudbranson is made of glass. Shouldn't we be able to see through him when viewed through alternate spectrums?

Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:24 pm

Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:53 pm That argues against IN's hypothesis that management is undervaluing durability in assessing what a hockey player could bring to the organization.

Not sure that's my hypothesis.

Sorry, I don't like to misrepresent other posters. One of the alternate hypotheses IN presented, then ?

Relevant from another thread:

Rocky Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:14 pm This is the third year running ive questioned the firing of the old mike Burnstein training/medical team. Man games lost has been abysmal ever since, even by Canuck standards. Its become more of a trend than an anomaly.

And from earlier in this one:

SKYO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:34 pm And get the training staff retrained in the offseason in the peter twist program.

Dorsett is included in those numbers

Topper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:45 pm Dorsett is included in those numbers

And Rodin skewed them last year.

That's what's kinda nice about the CHIP stat, cap hit of injured player.

Cap hit isn't a perfect reflection of a player's value, but at least it accounts for a Rodin being hurt.

http://nhlinjuryviz.blogspot.ca/2017/10 ... s.html?m=1

SHL quarter finals have started and Växjö won their first game 4-1.
No points for Elias, but he showed off some nice dekes and dangles.
They're facing Brynäs, the local team here in Gävle, so I might try to get tickets for one of the games. It'll most likely be a sweep, so I will have to move fast.....

https://www.shl.se/play/video/Vaxjo_Lak ... autoplay=1

Good luck Per.

For those wondering, it's been reported that Elias is still playing on RW.

Attaboy Per.

Got tickets for tonight!
I'm taking my daughter. She actually roots for Brynäs. I don't.
Don't really care for either of these teams, but I'm thrilled to get a closer look at Elias!
And Växjö actually has Rahimi on D. He's a former Björklöven player and has worn the Orca at camp to boot.

If you're looking for assholes...

Per wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:39 pm And Växjö actually has Rahimi on D. He's a former Björklöven player and has worn the Orca at camp to boot.

If you're looking for assholes...

The Swedish Scott Stevens. *hehe* Funny, it didn't even look like he hit those guys very hard and they went down like a ton of bricks.

That last guy went down faster than a soccer player.

2nd clip looked like Moore on Naslund

Todd Bersnoozi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:00 am

Per wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:39 pm And Växjö actually has Rahimi on D. He's a former Björklöven player and has worn the Orca at camp to boot.

If you're looking for assholes...

The Swedish Scott Stevens. *hehe* Funny, it didn't even look like he hit those guys very hard and they went down like a ton of bricks.

Well, he's a big guy. 190 cm, 100 kg.
And he has always played a very physical game.