The leaves paid a first rounder to get rid of Marleau.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:22 pmFFS Blob, they unload the Loui, Sutter, and Baer contracts and they have an embarrassing amount of cap space.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:54 pmBreak it all down for me. You bringing back Markstrom, Tanev, Virtanen and Gaudette with raises and including the Pettersson and Quinton’s bonuses..It ain’t as easy as you think especially making sure the team doesn’t take a couple steps backward. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s not like tiddly winks either.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:02 pmnothing to tap dance about. You let Schaller, Lievo and perhaps Stetcher walk, you can afford everyone.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:28 amThat said it will be interesting to see them tap dance around the cap this summer.
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Why do people confuse "cap teams" (canucks) with "cap hell" (Leaves)
Nobody really confused anything here
Happens all the time, last year the Leaves dumped the Marleau contract for eg., this isn't rocket science...
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Quinn Hughes already better than Morgan Rielly.
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I'm a YUGE Hughes fan but this is rediculous SKYO.
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Heheh points wise this sznThe Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:58 am
I'm a YUGE Hughes fan but this is rediculous SKYO.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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And your point is?Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:43 pmThe Leaves paid a first rounder to get rid of Marleau.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:22 pmFFS Blob, they unload the Loui, Sutter, and Baer contracts and they have an embarrassing amount of cap space.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:54 pmBreak it all down for me. You bringing back Markstrom, Tanev, Virtanen and Gaudette with raises and including the Pettersson and Quinton’s bonuses..It ain’t as easy as you think especially making sure the team doesn’t take a couple steps backward. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s not like tiddly winks either.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:02 pmnothing to tap dance about. You let Schaller, Lievo and perhaps Stetcher walk, you can afford everyone.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:28 amThat said it will be interesting to see them tap dance around the cap this summer.
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Why do people confuse "cap teams" (canucks) with "cap hell" (Leaves)
Nobody really confused anything here
Happens all the time, last year the Leaves dumped the Marleau contract for eg., this isn't rocket science...
BTW, I believe the Pettersson and Hughes bonuses will be $1.7M total if things keep trending the way they are.
Also, it's still possible those won't be carried over to next year (will be applied to this year's cap) depending on a few factors...
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Point is I don’t want to pay a 1st plus to get rid of Louie. Or pay a good prospect to ditch Sven
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You don't have to get rid of Loui to have enough cap-room to re-sign the guys you're talking about.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:41 pm Point is I don’t want to pay a 1st plus to get rid of Louie. Or pay a good prospect to ditch Sven
You don't have to pay a good prospect to ditch Sven.
And the cost to unload Loui should be much less than the cost to unload Marleau.
(team taking Marleau had to fork over $6.25M in real dollars while receiving zero games from him).
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Can they dip into LTIR space for bonuses?Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Also, it's still possible those won't be carried over to next year (will be applied to this year's cap) depending on a few factors...
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No, but if they trade a player (like Baer?) and drop below the cap, they will accumulate cap space over the rest of the season.ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:53 pmCan they dip into LTIR space for bonuses?Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Also, it's still possible those won't be carried over to next year (will be applied to this year's cap) depending on a few factors...
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BTW I feel like Jimmy has an agreement with Loui to not send him down this year if he retires in the summer.
Just a hunch for what it's worth, not much I guess lol.. but point is we don't know what kinds of plans/arrangements Jimmy has.
Just a hunch for what it's worth, not much I guess lol.. but point is we don't know what kinds of plans/arrangements Jimmy has.
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But that hunch makes some senseStrangelove wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:59 pm BTW I feel like Jimmy has an agreement with Loui to not send him down this year if he retires in the summer.
Just a hunch for what it's worth, not much I guess lol.. but point is we don't know what kinds of plans/arrangements Jimmy has.
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Marleau is a way better player and he only had one year left. Eriksson is one of the worst players in the league. Sure he makes less actual dollars but he still has a fat cap hit. It will be costly to ditch his lazy ass.Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:44 pmYou don't have to get rid of Loui to have enough cap-room to re-sign the guys you're talking about.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:41 pm Point is I don’t want to pay a 1st plus to get rid of Louie. Or pay a good prospect to ditch Sven
You don't have to pay a good prospect to ditch Sven.
And the cost to unload Loui should be much less than the cost to unload Marleau.
(team taking Marleau had to fork over $6.25M in real dollars while receiving zero games from him).
Svens cap hit is 3.4 and he isn’t good enough to play in the league. It’s going to cost something to get rid of him.
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UMMMM. Who cares how good Marleau is... deal was the Hurricanes had to spend $6.25M in real dollars while receiving zero games from him.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:30 pmMarleau is a way better player and he only had one year left.Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:44 pmYou don't have to get rid of Loui to have enough cap-room to re-sign the guys you're talking about.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:41 pm Point is I don’t want to pay a 1st plus to get rid of Louie. Or pay a good prospect to ditch Sven
You don't have to pay a good prospect to ditch Sven.
And the cost to unload Loui should be much less than the cost to unload Marleau.
(team taking Marleau had to fork over $6.25M in real dollars while receiving zero games from him).
Marleau: $6.25M in real dollars for zero games.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:30 pm Eriksson is one of the worst players in the league. Sure he makes less actual dollars but he still has a fat cap hit. It will be costly to ditch his lazy ass.
Eriksson: $5M in real dollars for 2 seasons of games.
"One of the worst players in the league" = hyperbole.
Loui is still worth $2.5M per year.
Another way to compare...
Team trades for Loui and buys him out = $2.7M in real dollars (spread over 4 years)
Team trades for Marleau and buys him out = $6.25M in real dollars
It took a 1st to dump Marleau, it won't take a 1st to dump Loui...
Sven will make $2.4M next year in real dollars, he is a proven NHLer and is presently tearing up the AHL.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:30 pm Svens cap hit is 3.4 and he isn’t good enough to play in the league. It’s going to cost something to get rid of him.
The only reason a team won't take him on right now has to do with his health.
As I said... IF... he continues to prove himself healthy this year, he will have value to a team for next season.
Relax Blob, you worry too much...
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I guess we’ll have to see what it takes to lance that boil off the team.
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