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If you design a retroactive penalty so stupid that it only ever really punishes one club and has to be amended because it poses a liability significant enough to threaten the practical operation of two others, you should probably just repeal it entirely.

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Something new...I agree with him on this. So do a plenitude of others. Even outside Canuckdom.

Luongo retired for several reasons. Mostly he was ailing from past injuries and hurting from present conditions that would not get better
through playing. The penalty has always been essentially illegal anyways.
He retired-----no more paycheck.
The Canucks are in a better position right now to say fuck-you, we're not going to pay the last two years. Wanna take it to big boy's court?
Get off your butt Aqua. Quit kissing someone else's.
Yes!! The three million per year for 20-21 and 21-22 is a big deal... :evil:
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SKYO wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:48 pm
Still it saves Nashville, they won't have to get a $26M cap hit or whatever insane number that was lol, just his AAV now. Preds saved if/when Weber retires. Wild with parise/suter.
I don't know if Nashville is really "saved", they just have a cap on how big the recapture penalty will be - $7.857 mil. I don't think Minny will be affected at all, because the current recapture is less than Parise/Suter's cap hit.

That being said, I'm with Doc that this is, and will remain, the Luongo Rule because it will only be applied to the Canucks.
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ESQ wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 am will remain, the Luongo Rule because it will only be applied to the Canucks.
Yeah I think Burke really wanted that rule to punish Gillis + he was trying to trade for Luongo at the time as well and was using all the power he could.

Sheesh between the draft lotto drops, the highest suspension in the Cup finals with the Aaron Rome hit on Horton (rome has had no history of either of bad hits) equivalent to half a regular season suspension - http://forum.canucks.com/topic/389996-a ... cup-final/

The only team to really suffer the wrath of the cap recapture.

It really is the Canucks vs the world mentality.

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Every team has an 'us against the world' mentality, and most teams have am instance or 2 in their history that fans always point to.

We just have more examples than most ;)
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Micky wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:05 am
Thomas Drance
If you design a retroactive penalty so stupid that it only ever really punishes one club and has to be amended because it poses a liability significant enough to threaten the practical operation of two others, you should probably just repeal it entirely.

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LISTEN: @ThomasDrance - Canucks will have about $16 million in cap space; no one wins from cap recapture penalty
7:14 PM · Jul 6, 2020·
Interview with Drance
https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/pla ... 25427.html

Something new...I agree with him on this. So do a plenitude of others. Even outside Canuckdom.

Luongo retired for several reasons. Mostly he was ailing from past injuries and hurting from present conditions that would not get better
through playing. The penalty has always been essentially illegal anyways.
It's not "illegal" because it's in the legal legally-binding CBA.

But yes, it does suck something fierce. (smile)

Micky wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:05 am He retired-----no more paycheck.
Mr Luongo is not receiving a paycheck, the recapture penalty is a penalty against the cap.

Micky wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:05 am The Canucks are in a better position right now to say fuck-you, we're not going to pay the last two years. Wanna take it to big boy's court?
Get off your butt Aqua. Quit kissing someone else's.
Yes!! The three million per year for 20-21 and 21-22 is a big deal... :evil:
Aquaman might as well sue NASA for faking the moon-landings.

(ZERO chance of winning)

"We're not going to pay the last two years" ?

Like I said, your Vancouver Canucks are not paying Mr Luongo

... they have had a penalty applied to their salary cap.

That $3,033,206 counts against the cap for 2 more seasons.

If they chose to ignore that $3,033,206... going over the cap

... they would be penalized with fines and forfeiting of draft picks.

Yeah, so at this moment in time you're an old man yelling at a cloud. (smile)
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:33 pm
Aquaman might as well sue NASA for faking the moon-landings.
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:33 pm
Yeah, so at this moment in time you're an old man yelling at a cloud. (smile)
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Yup. I still hate it. If there's a saving Grace/ Most around the league think the Canucks got the shaft....no gif.,
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The NHLPA's Executive Board has approved the tentative CBA and referred it to the NHLPA Membership for a ratification vote.
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Stanley Cup Final: Sept. 20-Oct. 2, at latest

4:05 PM · Jul 8, 2020
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Tentative date of draft: Oct. 6

4:06 PM · Jul 8, 2020
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Tentative 2020-21 camps open: Nov. 17, with (tentative ) season starting Dec. 1

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The #FreeAgentFrenzy interview period has now been eliminated under new CBA. Back to old school, scramble on the phone at 12noon ET.

3:52 PM · Jul 8, 2020
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Tentative dates listed in #NHL and #NHLPA Memorandum of Understanding:

Later of Oct. 9 or 7 days after Cup Final ends is opening of #FreeAgentFrenzy

Nov. 17: Opening of training camps for 2020-21

Dec. 1: Opening of 2020-21 regular season

All subject to change.


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#NHL tentative RTP schedule:

July 24: Travel to hubs
July 25: Exhibition games
July 30: Qualif. round begins
Aug. 9: First round of playoffs begins
Aug. 23: Second round begins
Sept. 6: Conf Finals begin
Sept. 20: SCF begins
Oct. 2: Last poss. game of SCF


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#NHL/#NHLPA MOU states that if players opting-out on a league-wide or club-wide basis "materially impacts the integrity" of the Return To Play plan, then the two sides may meet to determine whether to continue with the restart.

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Frank Seravalli
In addition to increased bonus for players on entry-level contracts, maximum entry-leve contract salaries are going up from current $925,000.

2022-23: $950,000
2023-24: $950,000
2024-25: $975,000
2025-26: $975,000
2026-27: $1 million
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-Qualifying round games will count as part of 2019-20 Stanley Cup playoff statistic

-Next pay date: In event 2020-21 #NHL season starts after Nov. 15, which is very likely, then players with 20-21 contract will be paid 8.1% of salary by Oct. 31.

Players will have gone from April 1 to Oct. 31 between pay cheques.
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I like this one- An interview period is like asking a guy if he might re-sign. Even chat about how much.
Frank Seravalli
The Free Agent Frenzy interview period has now been eliminated under new CBA. Back to old school, scramble on the phone at 12noon ET.
It was like cheating. (still wonder what TT said to JB) ;)
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Strangelove wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:11 pm https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/sta ... 0944475138
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#NHL tentative RTP schedule:

July 24: Travel to hubs
July 25: Exhibition games
July 30: Qualif. round begins
Aug. 9: First round of playoffs begins
Aug. 23: Second round begins
Sept. 6: Conf Finals begin
Sept. 20: SCF begins
Oct. 2: Last poss. game of SCF


4:19 PM · Jul 8, 2020
Oh shit! Thursday - July 30th!
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Very interesting: Clubs that have a Performance Bonus overage from this year will have the option to evenly distribute it between 2020-21 and 2021-22 (50% each season).
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