The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

[Mickey107]

Juolevi damned near played in these here, now past , playoffs. wouldn't surprise me if he's part of the regular D-core for the
20/21, mutated start time, season. YUP..
Now then, when does Podkolzin's season end? Could get interesting.

[Topper]

The JuJU man was one the key 3 of the Fin WJC team that everyone drooled over.

[Cousin Strawberry]

The little i saw of him in the game before the play-ins showed me he has turned a significant developmental corner.

I would say Stetcher wont be requalified and let to go UFA. If he is willing to return at around a mill a year he could be offered a contract though.

He is a depth piece no more/no less.

[Blob Mckenzie]

The JuJU man was one the key 3 of the Fin WJC team that everyone drooled over.

He really wasn’t. He was a passenger on both his own junior team and the Finnish national team. He racked up a bunch of assists and once he didn’t play on the dream teams the following two years his play went in the toilet.

[Carl Yagro]

Technically, Ju did play an NHL playoff qualifier game against the Wild, did he not?

Who here doesn't think he's got the spot over Fantenberg starting next season? If not for injuries, he'd already be in the bigs.

So technically, at least one Benning pick from every single draft he has presided over (with the exception of the latest one) has played at least one NHL game.

Which all-time Canucks GM has drafted better over the same consecutive 5 year period? How many recent and current NHL GMs have drafted better?

1 Calder runner-up, 1 Calder winner, 1 Calder finalist. Back to back to back.

A #1 Center, a #1 Dman, a top-6 scoring winger, a potential #1 goalie... all contributing successfully. 3 out of these 4 immediately in their rookie seasons.

JB oversees some of the same scouts and senior mgmt group that were mediocre to awful under previous regimes. He only gets a passing grade for drafting?

[Richardstroker69]

The JuJU man was one the key 3 of the Fin WJC team that everyone drooled over.

He really wasn’t. He was a passenger on both his own junior team and the Finnish national team. He racked up a bunch of assists and once he didn’t play on the dream teams the following two years his play went in the toilet.

His draft plus 2 year was great, what are you talking about?

[dangler]

For the record I was never one to get too involved in picking favorites before the draft and/or criticizing picks after. Except perhaps the Joulevi pick only because at the time everything leading up to that draft had a clear consensus of a top 5 tier that most lists didn't have Joulevi on, so to me it reeked of drafting for position which is a cardinal sin when picking so high. I felt we needed to dumb it down and stick with the consensus, which other than the Oilers' pick was pretty accurate.
Nevertheless I think getting worked up for players most of us know very little about may be fun for debate but is really an exercise in futility.

Juolevi was getting consistent top 6 rankings leading up to the draft, it wasn’t a reach at all, in fact a lot of people were ok with the pick. Leading up to the draft everyone kept saying the Canucks need to draft a Defenceman. The last time they did so was Luc Bourdon. It’s hard to find defencemen in the draft. The Canucks drafted 3 wingers in the previous 3 first rounds - Shinkaruk, Virtanen and Boeser. They were deep with wingers in the pipeline but not Defenceman. Was it the best choice? No. Obviously. But that’s the nature of the draft when drafting 18 year olds. It won’t be the last time where the choice made wasn’t the best choice. Benning has done remarkably well since that draft with his choices, but because of the good run I’m assuming we are bound for a dud soon.

That was also the draft Jimbro let everybody know they were targeting Piere luc Dubois, Columbus snagged him ahead of us, plan B hasn't worked out (so far), and Jimbro hasn't tipped his hand since.

[Strangelove]

There’s a comment from Doc in the draft thread right before the draft saying he’d “go to the dark side” if they drafted Petey. He was on literally nobody’s radar here.

That's not what I said, I made a joke about all the Vilardi-lovers, here it is:

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 71#p283171

FFS... PADDY, DUDE, AND I WERE DRIVING THE PETEY BANDWAGON PRIOR TO THE DRAFT:

Yeah I'm starting to be sold on the idea of Pettersen.

Okay, Pettersen it is!

Look at us agreeing Doc this is oddly strange...

Then it must be destiny!

[Strangelove]

Bonus memory:

Quinn Hughes could go to the Canucks!!

All-star QB.

To be honest, my church buddy Skyo wanted Hughes pre-draft, I was more of a cheerleader after the fact on that one.

[Blob Mckenzie]

There’s a comment from Doc in the draft thread right before the draft saying he’d “go to the dark side” if they drafted Petey. He was on literally nobody’s radar here.

That's not what I said, I made a joke about all the Vilardi-lovers, here it is:

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 71#p283171

FFS... PADDY, DUDE, AND I WERE DRIVING THE PETEY BANDWAGON PRIOR TO THE DRAFT:

Yeah I'm starting to be sold on the idea of Pettersen.

Okay, Pettersen it is!

Look at us agreeing Doc this is oddly strange...

Then it must be destiny!

Paddy sure... walk the thread back and the Dud is up and down and side to side like a fucking jellyfish. Get serious he zeroed in on Pettersson.

Your comment is your comment.

[Blob Mckenzie]

The 2017 draft thread is a wealth of knowledge

[Blob Mckenzie]

The JuJU man was one the key 3 of the Fin WJC team that everyone drooled over.

He really wasn’t. He was a passenger on both his own junior team and the Finnish national team. He racked up a bunch of assists and once he didn’t play on the dream teams the following two years his play went in the toilet.

His draft plus 2 year was great, what are you talking about?

I might be putting the boots to Razor a bit. Sami Salo however did comment on his lack of grit in the D zone and that he could be better.

Big year for him coming up. Kick down a door or two and silence the critics. I hope he can shine

[Chef Boi RD]

For the record I was never one to get too involved in picking favorites before the draft and/or criticizing picks after. Except perhaps the Joulevi pick only because at the time everything leading up to that draft had a clear consensus of a top 5 tier that most lists didn't have Joulevi on, so to me it reeked of drafting for position which is a cardinal sin when picking so high. I felt we needed to dumb it down and stick with the consensus, which other than the Oilers' pick was pretty accurate.
Nevertheless I think getting worked up for players most of us know very little about may be fun for debate but is really an exercise in futility.

Juolevi was getting consistent top 6 rankings leading up to the draft, it wasn’t a reach at all, in fact a lot of people were ok with the pick. Leading up to the draft everyone kept saying the Canucks need to draft a Defenceman. The last time they did so was Luc Bourdon. It’s hard to find defencemen in the draft. The Canucks drafted 3 wingers in the previous 3 first rounds - Shinkaruk, Virtanen and Boeser. They were deep with wingers in the pipeline but not Defenceman. Was it the best choice? No. Obviously. But that’s the nature of the draft when drafting 18 year olds. It won’t be the last time where the choice made wasn’t the best choice. Benning has done remarkably well since that draft with his choices, but because of the good run I’m assuming we are bound for a dud soon.

That was also the draft Jimbro let everybody know they were targeting Piere luc Dubois, Columbus snagged him ahead of us, plan B hasn't worked out (so far), and Jimbro hasn't tipped his hand since.

I don’t think Columbus needed Jim’s wink wink to pick PLD. They wanted PLD

[Chef Boi RD]

The JuJU man was one the key 3 of the Fin WJC team that everyone drooled over.

He really wasn’t. He was a passenger on both his own junior team and the Finnish national team. He racked up a bunch of assists and once he didn’t play on the dream teams the following two years his play went in the toilet.

His draft plus 2 year was great, what are you talking about?

I might be putting the boots to Razor a bit. Sami Salo however did comment on his lack of grit in the D zone and that he could be better.

Big year for him coming up. Kick down a door or two and silence the critics. I hope he can shine

Keep in mind he was young for his draft class. He’s not much older than Petey. He will come around, those two untimely injuries in which each required surgery really fucked with his development

[Strangelove]

There’s a comment from Doc in the draft thread right before the draft saying he’d “go to the dark side” if they drafted Petey. He was on literally nobody’s radar here.

That's not what I said, I made a joke about all the Vilardi-lovers, here it is:

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 71#p283171

FFS... PADDY, DUDE, AND I WERE DRIVING THE PETEY BANDWAGON PRIOR TO THE DRAFT:

Yeah I'm starting to be sold on the idea of Pettersen.

Okay, Pettersen it is!

Look at us agreeing Doc this is oddly strange...

Then it must be destiny!

Paddy sure... walk the thread back and the Dud is up and down and side to side like a fucking jellyfish. Get serious he zeroed in on Pettersson.

Your comment is your comment.

Give credit where credit is due!

(you punk)