The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:38 am I would certainly concede that Benning is a solid hockey man doing a good job
That's one small step for a boobird, one giant leap for boobirdkind.

Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:38 am Sort of a von Manstein figure (without implying that either he or the Little Eagles are Nazis -- just the same relative command and talent structure).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Manstein

"Liddell Hart was an admirer of the German generals; he described Manstein as an operational genius."

Y'know Cliffy, when you finally come to realize Lord Benning is a genius, it'll be too late.

Everyone will be all like "Duh, tell us something we don't know ya tard!"

Then, for all eternity, you will be relegated to licking the boots of those who knew it all along.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

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Strangelove wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:51 pm
"Liddell Hart was an admirer of the German generals; he described Manstein as an operational genius."
And in the same way that being an operational genius is still somewhat short of being a military genius, if the years prove that Benning was a drafting genius, that's still some distance from being a hockey management genius.

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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:38 am Honest to the Hockey Gawds, my plan was to shut up about this and let you just enjoy a nice payoff run, but some of you had to blow your genius horn, and at least this one last time, I will answer.
But I've said my piece for now, and shan't haunt you for some time.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

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Oh I’m haunted alright, really bothered.

So you sat idling biding your time like a well behaved respecter of others until the eventual knockout to then come back with the “see I told you so” shit? How mighty of you, how predictable of you. We are shocked, really :shock:
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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:58 pm But I've said my piece for now, and shat
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:03 pm Oh I’m haunted alright, really bothered.

So you sat idling biding your time like a well behaved respecter of others until the eventual knockout to then come back with the “see I told you so” shit? How mighty of you, how predictable of you. We are shocked, really :shock:
No kidding, eh?

RG is so triggered when someone posts JB and genius in the same paragraph (that's why we do it). Barely participated in any discussions this season or during this run... BUTT comes back the very next morning to blow his own horn.

"Honest to the Hockey Gawds, my plan was to shut up about this... blah, blah... at least this one last time..."

LOL, last time shutting up, wot?

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Carl Yagro wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:31 pm RG is so triggered when someone posts JB and genius in the same paragraph (that's why we do it).
SHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh.... :mrgreen:
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Jim Benning is, as of right now, one of the top team builders in the game. Teams are busy studying how he acquired so much budding EL talent and are augmenting systems to try and emulate his formula.

I shit you not.

I listen into plenty of radio interviews here in Alberia(where excellent hockey people are the local scribblers which makes the shows so much more interesting that 650 or 1040) and the consensus is that this was a very very well executed rebuild in the fraction of time most teams take.

All facts.

We are fucking lucky to be enjoying watching this core round into shape...all thanks to Jim Fucking Elmer Benning. Period.
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^Amen, brother.

Vancouver's comparatively quick turnaround is exactly what is being studied by writers, GMs and owners of other teams.
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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:58 pm
Strangelove wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:51 pm
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:38 am (Benning is) sort of a von Manstein figure (without implying that either he or the Little Eagles are Nazis -- just the same relative command and talent structure).
"Liddell Hart was an admirer of the German generals; he described Manstein as an operational genius."
And in the same way that being an operational genius is still somewhat short of being a military genius, if the years prove that Benning was a drafting genius, that's still some distance from being a hockey management genius.
More from Liddell Hart:

"The general verdict among the German generals I interrogated in 1945 was that Field-Marshal von Manstein had proved the ablest commander in their Army, and the man they had most desired to become its Commander-in-Chief. It is very clear that he had a superb sense of operational possibilities and equal mastery in the conduct of operations, together with a greater grasp of the potentialities of mechanized forces than any other commander who had not been trained in the tank arm. In sum, he had military genius."

- Liddell Hart

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Erich_von_Manstein

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Ronnings Ghost prefers the Buffalo Sabres model, just draft endlessly and forever. Lose in the name of drafting. Fuck winning. Lose to draft. Draft, draft, draft.....

Btw if memory serves, RG wanted Glass instead of Pettersson, Bouchard instead of Hughes and Boldy instead of Podkolzin
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Mr Aquilini doesn't like the empty seats model.

It's why Jim has such staying power around here.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:40 pm Mr Aquilini doesn't like the empty seats model.

It's why Jim has such staying power around here.
A genius doesn’t want you to know he’s a genius, in fact the opposite, he’s perfectly fine with you thinking he’s an idiot, that’s what makes him a genius.
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Can't help but remember Botch's cries of "we need an army". He cited the Jets as an example of having an army and expressed angst and envy at how far we were from getting to that point. I totally echoed those emotions and couldn't have agreed more. That seemed like a long time ago but it really wasn't, it was only a few years ago when things looked so bleak and here we are now right up there or possibly even ahead of the Jets. That's up for debate because I think the Jets are still a team to be reckoned with but the point is it's remarkable how far we've come in such a short period of time. We still need an army. The good news is more soldiers might be coming soon (Pod, Hog, Lind, Rath, Olli, etc., etc..). It's not likely all of them will hit, but we don't need that, we need maybe 2 or 3 more and we should have our army.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:27 pm

Btw if memory serves, RG wanted Glass instead of Pettersson, Bouchard instead of Hughes and Boldy instead of Podkolzin
You of all people shouldn’t be bumping your gums about who anyone else wanted to draft.
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Nuckertuzzi wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:50 pm Can't help but remember Botch's cries of "we need an army". He cited the Jets as an example of having an army and expressed angst and envy at how far we were from getting to that point. I totally echoed those emotions and couldn't have agreed more. That seemed like a long time ago but it really wasn't, it was only a few years ago when things looked so bleak and here we are now right up there or possibly even ahead of the Jets. That's up for debate because I think the Jets are still a team to be reckoned with but the point is it's remarkable how far we've come in such a short period of time. We still need an army. The good news is more soldiers might be coming soon (Pod, Hog, Lind, Rath, Olli, etc., etc..). It's not likely all of them will hit, but we don't need that, we need maybe 2 or 3 more and we should have our army.
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