The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

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Mëds wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 11:49 am At the end of the day I'd say that Benning was no better or worse than Gillis.
I, for one, could agree with that.

Really interesting, though, how they could achieve roughly equal net ratings (from you and me, anyway) with completely different strengths, weaknesses, and styles.

It also seems to me that each was better suited for the phase of the Canucks competitive cycle in which he worked than the other would have been. If -- as is sometimes proposed as a measurement of what other people in the hockey world thought of their work -- either of them are ever GMs again, I would be entertained to see how Gillis engineered a rebuild, or what moves Benning made to try to take an already competitive team over the top.

With other franchises, of course.
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I believe Gillis would have failed miserably at a rebuild.

He couldn't draft and seemingly had no recognition with respect to young talent.
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So maybe we should've rehired Mikey Eyebags to facilitate another build up to contender status.

The chef would be livid

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Gillis’s biggest failure was not going all in from 2009- 2013. He should have hemorrhaged every pick and prospect in the system. The team was close. Instead he chose to fart around with third and fourth line scrubs. Imagine bringing in a Jeff Carter or an impact defender. That’s when you go for it, when you’re close.

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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:46 am I’m trying to stay out of it. There’s a few hooligans that love to throw shitballs around and wonder why every thread turns into a shit show
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 5:54 pm Not even going to discuss Elmer for fear of inciting the Elmerites.
:look:

:hmmm:

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Blob keeps setting em up and we keep knocking em down

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiG0PhBj_uY



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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 pm Blob keeps setting em up and we keep knocking em down

:lol:

(Jim Benning was a great GM)
I guess if you consider a 48 mph heater knocking em down.

Funny thing is you weren’t exactly pro Elmer until about a year or two ago. But it’s always easier to roll with a posse. :)
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:lol:

Ya it's old news now.

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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:32 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 pm Blob keeps setting em up and we keep knocking em down

:lol:

(Jim Benning was a great GM)
I guess if you consider a 48 mph heater knocking em down.

Funny thing is you weren’t exactly pro Elmer until about a year or two ago. But it’s always easier to roll with a posse. :)
I really don't give a fuck Blob but it was funny there for a bit to get everyone going about it

Wait a minute...

Wasn't Gomer 48 mph Slapshot or something????

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The funniest part was Chef and I PMing how to get you riled up and engaging.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:32 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 pm Blob keeps setting em up and we keep knocking em down

:lol:

(Jim Benning was a great GM)
I guess if you consider a 48 mph heater knocking em down.
Well Cuz likely couldn't hit that.....so yeah, that would be knocking em down in this case. :look:

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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 5:54 pm Gillis’s biggest failure was not going all in from 2009- 2013. He should have hemorrhaged every pick and prospect in the system. The team was close. Instead he chose to fart around with third and fourth line scrubs. Imagine bringing in a Jeff Carter or an impact defender. That’s when you go for it, when you’re close.

Not even going to discuss Elmer for fear of inciting the Elmerites.
Gillis royally pooched BenningBuilts tenure due to Mikes 6 horrid years of garbage drafting. Absolutely despicable drafting.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 6:52 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 5:54 pm Gillis’s biggest failure was not going all in from 2009- 2013. He should have hemorrhaged every pick and prospect in the system. The team was close. Instead he chose to fart around with third and fourth line scrubs. Imagine bringing in a Jeff Carter or an impact defender. That’s when you go for it, when you’re close.

Not even going to discuss Elmer for fear of inciting the Elmerites.
Gillis royally pooched BenningBuilts tenure due to Mikes 6 horrid years of garbage drafting. Absolutely despicable drafting.
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:36 pm The funniest part was Chef and I PMing how to get you riled up and engaging.
Yes I’m just riled. Enraged really. Hur dur “lawn couches” man. “Okeefes extra old stock tall boys”. But hey you do you. I have no isssue pounding either of your guys’ weak hockey takes full of holes. :lol:
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