2015- 2016 Youngstars Tournament Roster
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I watched bits and pieces of the game. Kids playing Jr hockey, some Major Junior, some Junior B. For the most part, a cluster fuck by both squads.
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I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
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Let's rank the UVIC Sports Law Professor, the former Players Agent, his 2nd round picks when he wore the GM hat here for 6 seasons.
1. Alexandre Mallet
2. Anton Rodin
3. Yan Sauve
4. Traded the 2010 pick away
5. Traded the 2011 pick away
6. Traded the 2013 pick away
Any wonder why the Canucks 21 - 26 year old age bracket of players they drafted, sucks? The gaping hole in that age group made by Gillis and his shrewd drafting skills is the reason why Benning is racing to fix. The black hole between the Sedins and Bo Horvat.
I get very sentimental when I recollect Gillis press conference hiring to the GM post and how he slagged Nonis for his drafting. Oh the Arrogance
1. Alexandre Mallet
2. Anton Rodin
3. Yan Sauve
4. Traded the 2010 pick away
5. Traded the 2011 pick away
6. Traded the 2013 pick away
Any wonder why the Canucks 21 - 26 year old age bracket of players they drafted, sucks? The gaping hole in that age group made by Gillis and his shrewd drafting skills is the reason why Benning is racing to fix. The black hole between the Sedins and Bo Horvat.
I get very sentimental when I recollect Gillis press conference hiring to the GM post and how he slagged Nonis for his drafting. Oh the Arrogance
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Yeah Gillis sucked at drafting. Nonis wasn't much better. Nonis did well scooping up Edler and Hansen in later rounds, but let's not kid ourselves that he was miles ahead of Gillis.
We haven't seen what guys like Cassels, Grenier, Corrado, Gaunce, Hutton, Shinkaruk, Subban etc. develop into. I'd hazard a guess there are one or two NHL players in that group. And Nonis presided over what is likely the worst single Canucks draft of all time. At least Gillis turned the Pat White clusterfuck into Christian Ehrhoff.
We haven't seen what guys like Cassels, Grenier, Corrado, Gaunce, Hutton, Shinkaruk, Subban etc. develop into. I'd hazard a guess there are one or two NHL players in that group. And Nonis presided over what is likely the worst single Canucks draft of all time. At least Gillis turned the Pat White clusterfuck into Christian Ehrhoff.
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10/13 in 2 drafts and through trades that LOOK like they could transition into the NHL is a helluvalot better than the 4 or 5 that we saw from Gillis over his tenure here.Island Nucklehead wrote:Pedan wasn't drafted by Benning. Benning traded Mallet and a 3rd round pick for him.Mëds wrote: Our young star team has never looked good though. That is one thing I expect to see changing over the next few years with Benning at the helm. What is notable about that list of prospects that look like they will make the NHL at some point, is that at least 10 of them (including Pedan, etc.) have been drafted by Benning.
Benning has drafted 14 players, and he already dealt Forsling. I doubt 10/13 become regular NHL players.
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So far early in this competition liking Virtanen's game >> over Ehlers.
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Jordan Subban has the body language of PK. Watch some of his moves, point work, how he uses his stick, his spin moves. He certainly doesn't hit like his brother but he seems to have that same nasty streak. His shot hasn't been accurate yet this tournament but it's a blast. If this kid develops the right way I think we have a gem. Size will be his challenge but his skill set may compensate for that.
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Virtanen is looking big out there and playing that way too. Like to see him get more shots.SKYO wrote:So far early in this competition liking Virtanen's game >> over Ehlers.
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Hope it's the next Sutter NHL regime for the Subbans, to clarify - a bunch of bro's all making the NHL.Hockey Widow wrote:Jordan Subban has the body language of PK. Watch some of his moves, point work, how he uses his stick, his spin moves. He certainly doesn't hit like his brother but he seems to have that same nasty streak. His shot hasn't been accurate yet this tournament but it's a blast. If this kid develops the right way I think we have a gem. Size will be his challenge but his skill set may compensate for that.
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Yeah Ehlers still has a lot of filling out to do, but you can see the talent. I don't think much has changed since he was drafted. He needs to get bigger, that will be his limitation. Virtanen looks physically ready for the NHL this year, still unsure what's between his ears.Hockey Widow wrote:Virtanen is looking big out there and playing that way too. Like to see him get more shots.SKYO wrote:So far early in this competition liking Virtanen's game >> over Ehlers.
Watched a bit of the first period. Liked what I saw from Subban. I don't know that he'll be able to handle NHL forwards in his own zone, but the offensive tools are there. He'll likely never be a great all-around defender, but put him with someone steady in his own zone, and maybe he can provide similar things to what Tyson Barrie brings to Colorado.Hockey Widow wrote:Jordan Subban has the body language of PK. Watch some of his moves, point work, how he uses his stick, his spin moves. He certainly doesn't hit like his brother but he seems to have that same nasty streak. His shot hasn't been accurate yet this tournament but it's a blast. If this kid develops the right way I think we have a gem. Size will be his challenge but his skill set may compensate for that.
Ashton Sautner looks fairly terrible.
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McCann can still shoot the puck. Takes the shot on a 2-on-1 and hugs the ref for his goal celebration.
Shinkaruk is also looking real strong, all over the ice. Kind of expected, given he's been a professional for a season already. Looks like he could be a good candidate for a call-up at some point this season.
Shinkaruk is also looking real strong, all over the ice. Kind of expected, given he's been a professional for a season already. Looks like he could be a good candidate for a call-up at some point this season.
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Shinkaruk finally scores. Ok, so it was an EN, but still it counts
Sometimes I think he has what it takes and other times....Utica for him, he really does need to dominate in Utica.
Virtanen and Gaunce both look ready for the NHL. Cassels with a much better game. A couple of months in Utica and he will be ready for a call up. Hutton another solid game. Brisbois, meh, he needs work.
Main camp can't come fast enough for me. You can tell only a couple of players are ready for the jump, good thing Benning has some vets to rely upon.
Sometimes I think he has what it takes and other times....Utica for him, he really does need to dominate in Utica.
Virtanen and Gaunce both look ready for the NHL. Cassels with a much better game. A couple of months in Utica and he will be ready for a call up. Hutton another solid game. Brisbois, meh, he needs work.
Main camp can't come fast enough for me. You can tell only a couple of players are ready for the jump, good thing Benning has some vets to rely upon.
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Virtanen is just a wrecking ball. He's so solid and just ragdolls anyone who isn't already NHL size and strength.
McCann's wrist shot is just a thing of beauty.
Subban seemed invisible to me. I dunno. Haven't noticed anything that warrants any hype.
Whistler was solid in net. Faced fewer shots, but still made some really good saves when he needed to. The lone goal to beat him was a fluke bank shot off of Petan's body as he cruised through the slot.
McCann's wrist shot is just a thing of beauty.
Subban seemed invisible to me. I dunno. Haven't noticed anything that warrants any hype.
Whistler was solid in net. Faced fewer shots, but still made some really good saves when he needed to. The lone goal to beat him was a fluke bank shot off of Petan's body as he cruised through the slot.
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It's the way Subban moves that reminds me of PK. But you are right he doesn't deserve hype. He still needs time to learn the pro game and as others have said, his size will be a challenge when he begins playing against pros. The skill and tools are there, it's just a matter if he can put it all together and transition into the pro game. I hunk he can and will but it maybe a couple years away. I doubt he can play in the top 2 but I do think he will be a serviceable NHLer down the road.Mëds wrote:Virtanen is just a wrecking ball. He's so solid and just ragdolls anyone who isn't already NHL size and strength.
McCann's wrist shot is just a thing of beauty.
Subban seemed invisible to me. I dunno. Haven't noticed anything that warrants any hype.
Whistler was solid in net. Faced fewer shots, but still made some really good saves when he needed to. The lone goal to beat him was a fluke bank shot off of Petan's body as he cruised through the slot.
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NIce to see the game up close and personal. I think Guance, Subban, Cassels,Hutton, Virtanen and Shinkaruk will all be good NHL'ers. Much more structure to the game. Still a bit too much individual play trying to get noticed I think. I think Mceneny could make it. Pleasantly surprised by Stewart again, maybe Benning can judge talent. I see what they like about Brisebois he is a way aways yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see Subban earn some call ups this year. I think Guance is the most NHL ready. Watched for Ehlers, the only reason I noticed him was because I was looking for him. Canucks dominated the game.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa HW, settle down with regards to Smurf Subban. Let's not get your hopes up creating another Steve Kariya making like his bro Paul dream. Reality check
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