Really? Wow. Thanks for that.Reefer2 wrote:Forwards and D are 2 different positions,
Ryan Ellis made it in the NHL. You want to know why? Because he's a good hockey player.
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Really? Wow. Thanks for that.Reefer2 wrote:Forwards and D are 2 different positions,
herb wrote:Really? Wow. Thanks for that.Reefer2 wrote:Forwards and D are 2 different positions,
Ryan Ellis made it in the NHL. You want to know why? Because he's a good hockey player.
When you make a quote that a size of a player currently in the playoffs and then try to make it sound like size does not matter so what did you expect people to say?herb wrote:Really? Wow. Thanks for that.Reefer2 wrote:Forwards and D are 2 different positions,
Ryan Ellis made it in the NHL. You want to know why? Because he's a good hockey player.
Nope, he's probably not.Island Nucklehead wrote:He, as well as guys like Gadreau and Johnson, are still a rarity in the NHL. You need world-class talent to succeed at that size, and I don't think Subban is a world-class talent.
Of course Subban’s chance of making it is low, but if he doesn’t make it, the deciding factor won’t be his size.Reefer2 wrote:When you make a quote that a size of a player currently in the playoffs and then try to make it sound like size does not matter so what did you expect people to say?
Size does matter and it matters more for a D man to be successful or to even have a chance to be successful. All the talent in the world will not work when you have a 6'4" guy weighing 240 lbs sitting in front of your goalie and you are 5'9" and need to clear the crease. I know it is not all about size and positioning works well but I will state again Subban chance of becoming a regular in the NHL on D is low. Hell the chance of anyone drafted in the 4th round is low. Of course if he was 6" taller and had the same season he would of be a higher selection.
Kid just got signed and he's already pegged as a top pairing defenceman.Island Nucklehead wrote:All good points Ghost, but the problem I see is Subban facing off against a Getzlaf or a Kesler down low. Tanev has trouble dealing with bigger forwards along the wall, but usually uses his stick and smarts so contact isn't necessarily a problem and he can make his play before the big dudes are leaning on him. If Subban has to get up close and personal with bigger guys (due to reach/size) then I don't like his chances of outbattling the bigger forwards, even if he is physically stronger than Tanev.
Again, real low-risk contract for the Canucks. If it works out, even if he turns into MA Bergeron for a couple seasons, it's still a win for the organization.
lol far from it, but we do play half the games without the ability to dictate match ups, and it's not like those guys are the only big players in the league. So Subban will need to be able to deal with bigger forwards, just a fact of life for an NHL defenceman.vic wrote:Kid just got signed and he's already pegged as a top pairing defenceman.Island Nucklehead wrote:All good points Ghost, but the problem I see is Subban facing off against a Getzlaf or a Kesler down low. Tanev has trouble dealing with bigger forwards along the wall, but usually uses his stick and smarts so contact isn't necessarily a problem and he can make his play before the big dudes are leaning on him. If Subban has to get up close and personal with bigger guys (due to reach/size) then I don't like his chances of outbattling the bigger forwards, even if he is physically stronger than Tanev.
Again, real low-risk contract for the Canucks. If it works out, even if he turns into MA Bergeron for a couple seasons, it's still a win for the organization.