Which rookie(s) will make the team this year?

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Which rookie(s) will make the team this year?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:12 am

Bo Horvat
26
54%
Hunter Shinkaruk
13
27%
Nicklas Jensen
7
15%
Frank Corrado
2
4%
Darren Archibald
0
No votes
Henrik Tommernes
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 48

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Re: Which rookie(s) will make the team this year?

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Cornuck wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:...but we are not a SC contender on paper, so we should have room for Vey.
I like this caveat. :D

I'll put you down as cautiously optimistic. ;)
Yeah I noticed that! :lol:

Maybe he should print off one of my posts from a few months ago. :mrgreen:
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dbr wrote: Also, because I just can't help myself.. I don't like the "here's a bunch of 50th overall picks" comparison much. Looks great for my argument with Lucic, but the teams picking those other players also had a chance to take Dalton Thrower, Nikita Kucherov, William Karlsson, Calle Jarnkrok, Johan Larsson, Richard Panik, Dmitri Orlov, Stepan, Hamonic, Anisimov, Raymond :look: .. in addition to another boatload of guys that never panned out.

There's Lucic, and a couple of other guys that Vey is unlikely to ever touch, plus a couple of much younger players younger than him PLUS in a similar spot in the big league already.
Well yeah, you can always find guys picked later that turn into pros. The vast majority do not, ultimately a draft choice gets you a prospect that may or may not become an NHL player. Benning just sped that process along and is playing the averages quite well, IMO. Vey is likely not going to be a 1st line player, but there's an almost greater chance that the draft pick never even becomes a Linden Vey.

If you don't like that view, another way of looking at it is Jason Garrison ($4.6M) for Linden Vey ($735K). Freeing up Garrisons money allowed for the Canucks to go after guys like Miller and Vrbata.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:...but we are not a SC contender on paper, so we should have room for Vey.
I like this caveat. :D

I'll put you down as cautiously optimistic. ;)
I don't think anyone (maybe Doc, but he always thinks we're the best), expected this kind of start. Most of us thought we'd be better, but in tough to earn enough points. The season is still young, but it's hard to not like what we've seen thus far. Injuries look like they might be picking up, but hopefully we can ride it out with some depth from the farm. It's a long season, and it's the dog days of January and February, between the "hot starts" and the "playoff push" that will really determine what we've got here.

I think if Miller keeps playing at this level (it's a Vezina quality start, imo) there's no question we could be a threat.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:
I don't think anyone (maybe Doc, but he always thinks we're the best), expected this kind of start. Most of us thought we'd be better, but in tough to earn enough points. The season is still young, but it's hard to not like what we've seen thus far. Injuries look like they might be picking up, but hopefully we can ride it out with some depth from the farm. It's a long season, and it's the dog days of January and February, between the "hot starts" and the "playoff push" that will really determine what we've got here.

I think if Miller keeps playing at this level (it's a Vezina quality start, imo) there's no question we could be a threat.
ehhhh there was Rats always positive about the team, and *ahem* I had nux pegged getting a playoff spot with this team squeaking in at the #6 spot. Just Sayin'
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Linden Vey, what a project.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:Well yeah, you can always find guys picked later that turn into pros. The vast majority do not, ultimately a draft choice gets you a prospect that may or may not become an NHL player. Benning just sped that process along and is playing the averages quite well, IMO. Vey is likely not going to be a 1st line player, but there's an almost greater chance that the draft pick never even becomes a Linden Vey.

If you don't like that view, another way of looking at it is Jason Garrison ($4.6M) for Linden Vey ($735K). Freeing up Garrisons money allowed for the Canucks to go after guys like Miller and Vrbata.
Yeah I do agree. It's not ultimately sustainable but if Benning is going to take a few of these gambles up front that's fine - I agree it's reasonable and I thought it was with Gillis too.

Trouble is, it adds pressure to every other draft pick you make because if you don't hit on a player with enough of your remaining picks you're going to be doing the same thing three to four years down the line.

(Thankfully Benning seems to do well at the draft table, and has the advantage of following a regime that - at the end at least - acquired draft picks and spent them pretty well.)
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SKYO wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:
I don't think anyone (maybe Doc, but he always thinks we're the best), expected this kind of start. Most of us thought we'd be better, but in tough to earn enough points. The season is still young, but it's hard to not like what we've seen thus far. Injuries look like they might be picking up, but hopefully we can ride it out with some depth from the farm. It's a long season, and it's the dog days of January and February, between the "hot starts" and the "playoff push" that will really determine what we've got here.

I think if Miller keeps playing at this level (it's a Vezina quality start, imo) there's no question we could be a threat.
ehhhh there was Rats always positive about the team, and *ahem* I had nux pegged getting a playoff spot with this team squeaking in at the #6 spot. Just Sayin'
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Watching the subway series, Virtanen is a very good passer, sees the ice very well
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RoyalDude wrote:Watching the subway series, Virtanen is a very good passer, sees the ice very well
He's a virtual virtuoso!

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RoyalDude wrote:Watching the subway series, Virtanen is a very good passer, sees the ice very well
Good to hear that he appears to be trying to add some playmaking to his repertoire, but where is his shot?
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I watched most of the 2nd game, admire the kid's rough edges. Clearly an asshole to play against.
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Through 5 games, Bo Horvat has taken 52 faceoffs and won 53.8% of them. Small sample size, but impressive nonetheless. 53.8% is the highest win percentage on the team.
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herb wrote:Through 5 games, Bo Horvat has taken 52 faceoffs and won 53.8% of them. Small sample size, but impressive nonetheless. 53.8% is the highest win percentage on the team.
Yes small sample size, he did not do well last game, if you look game by game, it is all over the map and the number of draws per game is quite low.

Tough to make much sense of it yet other than to say he hasn't consistently stunk or been a Manny clone.
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Topper wrote:Tough to make much sense of it yet other than to say he hasn't consistently stunk or been a Manny clone.
Very true. Encouraging (to me at least) that he hasn't been awful.
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More encouraging than Nathan Smith ever was...
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Topper wrote:
herb wrote:Through 5 games, Bo Horvat has taken 52 faceoffs and won 53.8% of them. Small sample size, but impressive nonetheless. 53.8% is the highest win percentage on the team.
Yes small sample size, he did not do well last game, if you look game by game, it is all over the map and the number of draws per game is quite low.

Tough to make much sense of it yet other than to say he hasn't consistently stunk or been a Manny clone.
Um, excuse me, Bo Horvat is just 19 years old. This BOlds well. Very well. I'm sure after old Trev laces 'em up and gives the kid a few pointers he will be fantastic as a 24 yr old.
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