The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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2Fingers wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:16 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

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But in his defence are teams too well coached these days? Everything scripted so when something different happens the train falls off the track? Have the coached the individuality out?
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Strangelove wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

He fucked The Cock and now The Keefster.
He’s forcing the hands of a trade to get out of T.O. and back home to Arizona. He’s going there anyways. If I’m T.O. I’m knocking on Arizona’s door and proposing “if you want your Boi give us Hayton, Soderstrom, Chychrun and 2021 1st round pick and 2022 1st round pick
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:12 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

He fucked The Cock and now The Keefster.
He’s forcing the hands of a trade to get out of T.O. and back home to Arizona. He’s going there anyways. If I’m T.O. I’m knocking on Arizona’s door and proposing “if you want your Boi give us Hayton, Soderstrom, Chychrun and 2021 1st round pick and 2022 1st round pick

Except TO doesn’t need 1st’s. You only need a first if you know how to draft.
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Madcombinepilot wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:57 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:12 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

He fucked The Cock and now The Keefster.
He’s forcing the hands of a trade to get out of T.O. and back home to Arizona. He’s going there anyways. If I’m T.O. I’m knocking on Arizona’s door and proposing “if you want your Boi give us Hayton, Soderstrom, Chychrun and 2021 1st round pick and 2022 1st round pick

Except TO doesn’t need 1st’s. You only need a first if you know how to draft.
Prezactly!

Besides, you don't want anything less than a top-3 pick for a guy like Matthews. So that's a trade you make with a bottom 3 team at the deadline for their upcoming 1st rounder where an injection of scoring talent like his can't possible elevate the team out of the lottery.
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:12 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

He fucked The Cock and now The Keefster.
He’s forcing the hands of a trade to get out of T.O. and back home to Arizona. He’s going there anyways. If I’m T.O. I’m knocking on Arizona’s door and proposing “if you want your Boi give us Hayton, Soderstrom, Chychrun and 2021 1st round pick and 2022 1st round pick

Why would he go to Arizona? They can't win, have the tiniest operational budget and can't pay him and may move soon.
This is the same as Tavares "Going home at all".
leaves have a year to sign him and eh will. He can't turn dowmn the $$$
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BTW, Canucks are in the WORST cap hell. I told you... Never, EVER overpay 4th line talent you can never move.
But William Nylander makes 6.9 per! LOL
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Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
This "Controversy" is forgotten already.
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:39 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:12 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

He fucked The Cock and now The Keefster.
He’s forcing the hands of a trade to get out of T.O. and back home to Arizona. He’s going there anyways. If I’m T.O. I’m knocking on Arizona’s door and proposing “if you want your Boi give us Hayton, Soderstrom, Chychrun and 2021 1st round pick and 2022 1st round pick

Why would he go to Arizona? They can't win, have the tiniest operational budget and can't pay him and may move soon.
This is the same as Tavares "Going home at all".
Leaves have a year to sign him and eh will. He can't turn dowmn the $$$
The Coyotes have an estimated salary expenditure of $63M.

Some comparables? (Bolded teams are either proven contenders or looking quite strong in the early going this season)

Montreal - $67M
Chicago - $64M
Calgary - $70M
Vancouver - $70M
Dallas - $71M
Vegas - $68M
Boston - $65M
Toronto - $91M

Not quite sure what you mean when you say that operational budget (which means real dollars) prevents a team from having a chance at winning.

Your Leaves are spending almost $3M more than any other team in the league (Tampa is next at $88M). They continually lose to Boston who is spending almost $30M less! Last year they lost in the qualifying round to Columbus who I believe had an actual salary cost of around $68M.

I don't understand how you, of all people, are drawing a correlation between real dollars spent and winning.

Ever heard of profit sharing? It's something that the league does.

Adding hometown boy Matthews would sell tickets and merchandise too.

Arizona is to Western Canada what Florida is to Eastern Canada in the winter. Canadian fans would also be more inclined to go to games to see Matthews level of talent. Don't kid yourself, they could afford a bit more.
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:40 am BTW, Canucks are in the WORST cap hell. I told you... Never, EVER overpay 4th line talent you can never move.
But William Nylander makes 6.9 per! LOL
Didnt that wonderful core of yours fail to even qualify for the playoffs? Come back and talk shit when your team actually makes the playoffs, let alone win their first round since before the moon landing

(Oh and winning a championship where there are only 5 other teams competing and they ALL qualify doesnt count)
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[quote="The Brown Wizard" post_id=411010 time=1611676733 user_id=17875]
[quote=BigTuna post_id=410999 time=1611664803 user_id=478]
BTW, Canucks are in the WORST cap hell. I told you... Never, EVER overpay 4th line talent you can never move.
But William Nylander makes 6.9 per! LOL
[/quote]

Didnt that wonderful core of yours fail to even qualify for the playoffs? Come back and talk shit when your team actually makes the playoffs, let alone win their first round since before the moon landing

(Oh and winning a championship where there are only 5 other teams competing and they ALL qualify doesnt count)
[/quote]

leaves officially played 5 playoff games.
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Mëds wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:42 am
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:39 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:12 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Topper wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:33 pm When does Austin Mathews become Player/Coach?

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2021/01/a ... eldon.html
Gomez the coach killer.

He fucked The Cock and now The Keefster.
He’s forcing the hands of a trade to get out of T.O. and back home to Arizona. He’s going there anyways. If I’m T.O. I’m knocking on Arizona’s door and proposing “if you want your Boi give us Hayton, Soderstrom, Chychrun and 2021 1st round pick and 2022 1st round pick

Why would he go to Arizona? They can't win, have the tiniest operational budget and can't pay him and may move soon.
This is the same as Tavares "Going home at all".
Leaves have a year to sign him and eh will. He can't turn dowmn the $$$
The Coyotes have an estimated salary expenditure of $63M.

Some comparables? (Bolded teams are either proven contenders or looking quite strong in the early going this season)

Montreal - $67M
Chicago - $64M
Calgary - $70M
Vancouver - $70M
Dallas - $71M
Vegas - $68M
Boston - $65M
Toronto - $91M

Not quite sure what you mean when you say that operational budget (which means real dollars) prevents a team from having a chance at winning.

Your Leaves are spending almost $3M more than any other team in the league (Tampa is next at $88M). They continually lose to Boston who is spending almost $30M less! Last year they lost in the qualifying round to Columbus who I believe had an actual salary cost of around $68M.

I don't understand how you, of all people, are drawing a correlation between real dollars spent and winning.

Ever heard of profit sharing? It's something that the league does.

Adding hometown boy Matthews would sell tickets and merchandise too.

Arizona is to Western Canada what Florida is to Eastern Canada in the winter. Canadian fans would also be more inclined to go to games to see Matthews level of talent. Don't kid yourself, they could afford a bit more.
Matthews has made 32.4 million in bonuses> arizona can never afford that. Coyotees are the biggest mess in the NHL.
"Operational budget" means what you spend on scouting
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:06 am
The Brown Wizard wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:58 am
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:40 am BTW, Canucks are in the WORST cap hell. I told you... Never, EVER overpay 4th line talent you can never move.
But William Nylander makes 6.9 per! LOL
Didnt that wonderful core of yours fail to even qualify for the playoffs? Come back and talk shit when your team actually makes the playoffs, let alone win their first round since before the moon landing

(Oh and winning a championship where there are only 5 other teams competing and they ALL qualify doesnt count)
Leaves officially played 5 playoff games.
Wrong Laffs lost in the play in round meaning they didnt even make the playoffs

I repeat...

Didnt. Even. Make. The. Playoffs.

...failure after failure after failure...

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BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:07 am
Matthews has made 32.4 million in bonuses> arizona can never afford that. Coyotees are the biggest mess in the NHL.
"Operational budget" means what you spend on scouting
Are you saying that's $32.4M above and beyond his salary and cap hit? Is that what you're saying? Because you know, that would be cap circumvention and the Leaves would be in big trouble.

Errr, ummm, no. Bonus money still factors into salary cap and actual dollars spent. When the money comes out of the bank doesn't matter for NHL franchises, that's why profit sharing exists.

It's why so many people hate the Bettman expansion era because the NHL is propping up these money pits on the backs of the big clubs.

Anyways. Dream away Fishface. Arizona could afford Matthews if he wanted to go home.

Maybe he doesn't want to go back to AZ, but you can bet your bottom dollar that he has 'Merica on his mind and that's where he's gonna go sign as an UFA.

Wow did Dubas ever screw that up. Bridged him to UFA and still paid him 8 figures!
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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The Brown Wizard wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:39 am
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:06 am Leaves officially played 5 playoff games.
Wrong Laffs lost in the play in round meaning they didnt even make the playoffs

I repeat...

Didnt. Even. Make. The. Playoffs.

...failure after failure after failure...

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