Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15-16

[Madcombinepilot]

I know, just pissin around. What else to do ???

well, start with a Happy Face, dude, Happy Face.
(It de-notes sarcasm, jesting, and a little joking around.)

[Mickey107]

I know, just pissin around. What else to do ???

well, start with a Happy Face, dude, Happy Face.
(It de-notes sarcasm, jesting, and a little joking around.)

k ?

[Rede]

So... if we're goners in a couple years when the Twinsition happens, why not sign players like LE and go for it now while there is still a chance at a Cinderella run in the playoffs? The whole "Get in and anything can happen" refrain.

Then, if we haven't struck gold in the draft with Benning at the helm - remembering how few of Detroit's stars were top picks as an example - you really have no choice but to tank... so why not do it then instead of wasting the twins' last few productive years by trying to tank?

[SKYO]

So... if we're goners in a couple years when the Twinsition happens, why not sign players like LE and go for it now while there is still a chance at a Cinderella run in the playoffs? The whole "Get in and anything can happen" refrain.

Then, if we haven't struck gold in the draft with Benning at the helm - remembering how few of Detroit's stars were top picks as an example - you really have no choice but to tank... so why not do it then instead of wasting the twins' last few productive years by trying to tank?

REDE ftw.

Canucks trade for Lazar and Hartnell yet?

[Mickey107]

With the league being another year deeper into the 3 year entry level system and the Vegas factor, not to mention a general youth movement through the entire league, I am anticipating far more player movement during the entire regular season...

[2Fingers]

With the league being another year deeper into the 3 year entry level system and the Vegas factor, not to mention a general youth movement through the entire league, I am anticipating far more player movement during the entire regular season...

I don't, we fans like trades but the real NHL won't be swayed with the points you noted. They already started to adjust to Vegas coming and I don't see an immediate start date for a 2nd new team.

As for the 3 year ELC this has been around for a while and will continue so all GM have already adapted to it.

In the salary cap world trades are down, look at the Nucks near the cap and finished bottom of the NHL. The biggest reason for less trades is the parity in the NHL and the 2 and 3 point games. On top of that some owners are cheap so thru don't allow the rich teams to buy themselves out of problems.

[Madcombinepilot]

So... if we're goners in a couple years when the Twinsition happens, why not sign players like LE and go for it now while there is still a chance at a Cinderella run in the playoffs? The whole "Get in and anything can happen" refrain.

Then, if we haven't struck gold in the draft with Benning at the helm - remembering how few of Detroit's stars were top picks as an example - you really have no choice but to tank... so why not do it then instead of wasting the twins' last few productive years by trying to tank?

REDE ftw.

Canucks trade for Lazar and Hartnell yet?

I heard we traded Hansen for them...

[Mickey107]

With the league being another year deeper into the 3 year entry level system and the Vegas factor, not to mention a general youth movement through the entire league, I am anticipating far more player movement during the entire regular season...

I don't, we fans like trades but the real NHL won't be swayed with the points you noted. They already started to adjust to Vegas coming and I don't see an immediate start date for a 2nd new team.

As for the 3 year ELC this has been around for a while and will continue so all GM have already adapted to it.

In the salary cap world trades are down, look at the Nucks near the cap and finished bottom of the NHL. The biggest reason for less trades is the parity in the NHL and the 2 and 3 point games. On top of that some owners are cheap so thru don't allow the rich teams to buy themselves out of problems.

Agree to disagree. We'll see...

[SKYO]

So... if we're goners in a couple years when the Twinsition happens, why not sign players like LE and go for it now while there is still a chance at a Cinderella run in the playoffs? The whole "Get in and anything can happen" refrain.

Then, if we haven't struck gold in the draft with Benning at the helm - remembering how few of Detroit's stars were top picks as an example - you really have no choice but to tank... so why not do it then instead of wasting the twins' last few productive years by trying to tank?

REDE ftw.

Canucks trade for Lazar and Hartnell yet?

I heard we traded Hansen for them...

Nice, gonna be tough to lose honeybadger, but it's worth it, get younger while remain competitive.
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bored af - christ skyo - here's yet another Edler to Detroit trade scenario.

Edler for Tatar + Ouellet.

Ouellet has the potential to be a top 4 guy immediately, he's a fancy stats dream:

This is an article from january 2015 when babcock was still there: http://thehockeywriters.com/x-man-the-r ... r-ouellet/

Just before the start of the season, the Detroit Red Wings made their final roster move – demoting defenseman Xavier Ouellet to the Grand Rapids Griffins. When asked about the decision to demote Ouellet, coach Mike Babcock gave a rather opinionated response:

“I got my two cents in, so I get one vote. He (Holland) gets two, so he can win 2-1”.

The 21-year old Ouellet was eventually recalled and made his season debut on November 20th against the Winnipeg Jets. Through 14 games, Ouellet has one goal, one assist, 20 shots on goal, and is a +4. However, his impact in those 14 games far exceeds what is captured by regular stats. In fact, I’ll go as far as to say that since Ouellet’s most recent call-up on December 12th, 2014, he’s been one of the best possession defensemen in the NHL.

From this table, you can see that Ouellet has been utilized similarly to how the Kings use Drew Doughty, but Ouellet leads all of these defensemen in CF%, SCF%, SCA60, and CA60. While we shouldn’t read in to his numbers too much since he is benefitting from starting more shifts in the offensive zone, playing with better teammates, and against lighter competition, we still have to appreciate the level of shot suppression.

Of all defensemen in the entire NHL who have played at least 100 minutes at 5v5, Ouellet’s SCA60 of 17.8 for the season is best in the NHL. When he’s on the ice, the opposition simply has not generated scoring chances at a high level. The low amount of chances against can be attributed to Ouellet’s superb decision-making with the puck in his own zone. You can see that he almost always makes the correct first-pass out of his own zone and very rarely turns the puck over (6 giveaways in 14 games). Red Wings fans have certainly appreciated his quick thinking and good outlet passes, something that has been sorely lacking since the great Nicklas Lidstrom retired.

For an Edler trade, I'm just looking to find a younger replacement left defense guy with good upside who can play now, along with a top 6 winger. Detroit which is strapped for cap space and always looking to upgrade their defense for their win now at all costs, keep the 25+ year playoff streak alive, veterans over youth Holland style, I think it's a good opportunity to strike a deal with em while the expansion draft looms.

[Chef Boi RD]

How's the Skyo trade thread doing? Who's getting traded and who are we trading for?

[Strangelove]

How's the Skyo trade thread doing? Who's getting traded and who are we trading for?

We're trading everyone for everyone.

[lostinarink]

How's the Skyo trade thread doing? Who's getting traded and who are we trading for?

We're trading everyone for everyone.

and a 2nd round draft pick

[SKYO]

How's the Skyo trade thread doing? Who's getting traded and who are we trading for?

yo mama....

The skyo trade thread - the grand wizard of trades that no one cares about in CC lol, but it's my guilty pleasure besides bigbooty porn.

[Madcombinepilot]

Is it Hansen that gets us that second round pick??

[lostinarink]

Is it Hansen that gets us that second round pick??

Nope, that would be either Bo or Hutton....