Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
At the time we desperately needed a top six centre and for whatever reasons Kopitar, who showed upside, dropped. I think BB blew his wad to justify the pick. Luc was a good pick for us but Kopitar would have been the better pick, picking for position and was still the best player available. Luc was Canadian safe and had that toughness BB loves.
I remember hoping he would pick Kopitar but can't say I was disappointed with Luc. If not for his tragic death he would have probably made top 4 on D and been a steady contributor on the back end. But Kopitar still would have been a better pick. However he may not have developed in Vancouver as quickly as he did with LA. They could afford to let him play top minutes, make mistakes and learn the game. I'm not so sure we would have done that.
I remember hoping he would pick Kopitar but can't say I was disappointed with Luc. If not for his tragic death he would have probably made top 4 on D and been a steady contributor on the back end. But Kopitar still would have been a better pick. However he may not have developed in Vancouver as quickly as he did with LA. They could afford to let him play top minutes, make mistakes and learn the game. I'm not so sure we would have done that.
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
Nonis was the GM that took Bourdon....Hockey Widow wrote:At the time we desperately needed a top six centre and for whatever reasons Kopitar, who showed upside, dropped. I think BB blew his wad to justify the pick. Luc was a good pick for us but Kopitar would have been the better pick, picking for position and was still the best player available. Luc was Canadian safe and had that toughness BB loves.
I remember hoping he would pick Kopitar but can't say I was disappointed with Luc. If not for his tragic death he would have probably made top 4 on D and been a steady contributor on the back end. But Kopitar still would have been a better pick. However he may not have developed in Vancouver as quickly as he did with LA. They could afford to let him play top minutes, make mistakes and learn the game. I'm not so sure we would have done that.
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
True...Vader wrote: Nonis was the GM that took Bourdon....
So in an alternative universe it was...http://www.tsn.ca/story/print/?id=131988
Nonis sniffed around the higher picks but couldn't pull off a deal.
''We did try,'' Nonis said. ''We made offers to three teams that were ahead of us. We weren't about to take away some big parts of our team in order to move up because we knew we had a good pick at 10.''
He even tried to swing a deal for the No. 2 pick owned by his former Canucks boss Brian Burke, but the new Anaheim GM was asking way too much.
''I talked to Burkey but I've grown quite attached to my first-born and that's what it would have taken,'' Nonis said with a laugh.
2005 10th overall (Luc Bourdon) + Ryan Kesler... to the Ducks for... 2005 2nd overall (Bobby Ryan).
Then in the summer of 2006 Bobby Clarke of the Flyers offer-sheets Ryan Kesler and Burkie...
... doesn't match!
(you know Burkie)
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
My French-Irish-American reference was that of ol' chrome dome o'er at TSN.
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
Beyond what little sample size scouts had on him, don't recall ever hearing anything negative about Anze.
Luc was the safer pick over the Slovenian.
Par for the course with this organizations unremarkable draft history.
Here's hoping McCann has an outstanding camp and earns a longer look.
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
Beyond what little sample size scouts had on him, don't recall ever hearing anything negative about Anze.
Luc was the safer pick over the Slovenian.
Par for the course with this organizations unremarkable draft history.
Here's hoping McCann has an outstanding camp and earns a longer look.
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Wasn't his father the coach? Maybe it was more familiar...Hockey Widow wrote:One big question mark on him was the mindset that he was not coachable. There were stories floating around that he had arguments with his coaching staff and that led to him dropping in the rankings. Not enough was known about him to off set that, at the time.
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
Cookie La Rue wrote:Wasn't his father the coach? Maybe it was more familiar...Hockey Widow wrote:One big question mark on him was the mindset that he was not coachable. There were stories floating around that he had arguments with his coaching staff and that led to him dropping in the rankings. Not enough was known about him to off set that, at the time.
What do I know, I got the wrong GM!!
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All the stories I recall from that time were question marks on Anze's nationality and the lack of hockey pedigree of his compatriots.
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
McCann is out with Mono. There is a good chance that he will miss significant portion of the main camp as well...BladesofSteel wrote:My French-Irish-American reference was that of ol' chrome dome o'er at TSN.
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
Beyond what little sample size scouts had on him, don't recall ever hearing anything negative about Anze.
Luc was the safer pick over the Slovenian.
Par for the course with this organizations unremarkable draft history.
Here's hoping McCann has an outstanding camp and earns a longer look.
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
He should miss the entire camp. No way he makes the team this year anyway so better to rest until he is symptom free and his spleen has returned to normal. It is too bad both he and Cassels are inflicted but it is what it isJovocop wrote:McCann is out with Mono. There is a good chance that he will miss significant portion of the main camp as well...BladesofSteel wrote:My French-Irish-American reference was that of ol' chrome dome o'er at TSN.
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
Beyond what little sample size scouts had on him, don't recall ever hearing anything negative about Anze.
Luc was the safer pick over the Slovenian.
Par for the course with this organizations unremarkable draft history.
Here's hoping McCann has an outstanding camp and earns a longer look.
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
BladesofSteel wrote:
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
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Cory Schneider was Nonis' first ever pick...
What am I, the site fact checker?
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
Vader wrote:BladesofSteel wrote:
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
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Cory Schneider was Nonis' first ever pick...
What am I, the site fact checker?
Hey, someone has to do it! A thankless job I know but it keeps us honest
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
I'm just keepin you on your toes
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
Yeah "thankless"... and then Mëds starts with the "cherry picker" accusations.Hockey Widow wrote:Vader wrote:BladesofSteel wrote:
Unlucky Luc was Nonis' first ever pick after Burke was canned in Mae of '04.
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Cory Schneider was Nonis' first ever pick...
What am I, the site fact checker?
Hey, someone has to do it! A thankless job I know but it keeps us honest
Keep up the good work Vader!
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
I prefer keeping them curled.BladesofSteel wrote:I'm just keepin you on your toes
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Re: Canucks select Jared McCann at #24
It amazes me we still talk about Kopitar. 12 other teams passed on him as well, kind of like how 14 teams passed on Erik Karlsson, Canucks included, who on most people's list is in the top 3 of best defensemen in the game. I know I slagged Gillis and his terrible drafting record cause, well, it was fun, but the bottom line, drafting in the NHL will always be a crap shoot, which is why you need to stock pile prospects to increase your odds in some of those kids panning out which is what the Canucks were not doing for years. They finally realized it with the last two drafts. It's proven time and time again, the only way to build a successful NHL product is through drafting and developing. If you look at the Canucks drafting history, most their successes came from the later round picks. We were never great in the first round. The Canucks in the old days rarely traded picks away but for some reason under Burke, Nonis and Gillis that philosophy changed which is why the Canucks are where they are now. Realizing that way doesn't work and having to re-stock the cupboards. It's the only way to fly.
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