I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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Burrows doubtfull for tonights game. Should be at least 2 games
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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Topper wrote:I was fine with 5 and a game

So..... Because it was Burrows you're fine with it? What if it was one of the Sedins ? Would you still be "fine with it" What a croc of shit!!!!!
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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I don't give a shit who was the target of the hit. I don't demand a double standard of officiating with one set of rules/enforcement for stars and another for scrubs.

I believe 5 minutes and a game was a correct call.
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Topper wrote:I don't give a shit who was the target of the hit. I don't demand a double standard of officiating with one set of rules/enforcement for stars and another for scrubs.

I believe 5 minutes and a game was a correct call.
When Jannik Hanen got 2 games for trying to bat a puck out of the air and accidentally contacted Hossa in the head we were all mystified by the call. This was a FAR more dangerous play than that, and certainly there was more to suggest some level on intent.

If the league is trying to get that kind of thing out of the game, then that was the right call on the ice but the wrong call by the league after the fact.

We all thought that Malkin deserved supplemental discipline for his hit on Mitchell that sidelined Willie for 3 months. That hit by Toffoli on Burrows was worse.....it just didn't have the same results.

We're all so used to the NHL screwing this shit up based on the team and player that commits the infraction that we've forgotten that our source of frustration is not with the lack of supplemental discipline, but rather with the inconsistency with which the NHL hands it out.
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Mëds wrote: We all thought that Malkin deserved supplemental discipline for his hit on Mitchell that sidelined Willie for 3 months. That hit by Toffoli on Burrows was worse.....it just didn't have the same results.

We're all so used to the NHL screwing this shit up based on the team and player that commits the infraction that we've forgotten that our source of frustration is not with the lack of supplemental discipline, but rather with the inconsistency with which the NHL hands it out.
The league has been quite clear that they do take the results into consideration when handing out discipline. I don't agree with it, I think Toffoli's shove was far more dangerous than something like Kadri's head-contact the other day, but I'm willing to bet that if Burrows was concussed on the play you'd see Toffoli get 3-4 games.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:The league has been quite clear that they do take the results into consideration when handing out discipline. I don't agree with it, I think Toffoli's shove was far more dangerous than something like Kadri's head-contact the other day, but I'm willing to bet that if Burrows was concussed on the play you'd see Toffoli get 3-4 games.
I'm glad Burrows is apparently OK, but yeah, Toffoli's shove was a very dangerous play. Somebody could get paralyzed going head first into the boards like that.
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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Toffoli has no history and Burrows wasn't hurt . If it was Marchand he would get three or four games . I could see one game but no more than that .
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Island Nucklehead wrote:The league has been quite clear that they do take the results into consideration when handing out discipline.
People keep forgetting that injury on the play is written into the CBA as a consideration for supplementary discipline.

I would prefer a determination on the danger of the play, however given the inconsistency in the current process I am reluctant to endorse greater discretionary powers.

The Hansen overhand to Hossa is the poster child for bad discretionary decisions. The Media Whore's explanatory video of that incident is low budget D movie science fiction and reason enough to limit the discretionary powers..
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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Topper wrote:I was fine with 5 and a game
The penalty cost them the game and maybe a playoff spot.

As much as I'd like to see a suspension, seeing the Kings miss the post season would be so much sweeter.
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Topper wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:The league has been quite clear that they do take the results into consideration when handing out discipline.
People keep forgetting that injury on the play is written into the CBA as a consideration for supplementary discipline.

I would prefer a determination on the danger of the play, however given the inconsistency in the current process I am reluctant to endorse greater discretionary powers.

The Hansen overhand to Hossa is the poster child for bad discretionary decisions. The Media Whore's explanatory video of that incident is low budget D movie science fiction and reason enough to limit the discretionary powers..
All true, for whatever reason there is somewhat of a double standard towards the Canucks ever since Burrows/Augerwatergate in 2010.

Bickell deadly headblast on Bieksa


Similar hit by Burrows on Emelin got 3 games.
http://fansided.com/2014/11/01/canucks- ... ei-emelin/
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Then there was the Matthias - Robidas hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cxTY-tTm8w

Malkin on Mitchell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imv7owJKLic#t=29

McGratton finishes Alberts career
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UisbX2tKqWM

There's more but I'm too lazy to dig em all up right now.

Buuuuut Whatever, Canucks should just know they gotta stick up for themselves, not hope on NHL player safety protecting em - play smart, team toughness yada yada.
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Re: I can't believe it's NOT a suspension!

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Even Kerry Fraser is confused as to why Toffoli didn't get a suspension
This happens to be one of those times when I strongly disagree with the decision made by the good men in the Player Safety Committee not to take further disciplinary action against Tyler Toffoli of the Los Angeles Kings for his reckless cross-check delivered to the back of Alexandre Burrows of the Canucks on Saturday night.
Full article: http://www.tsn.ca/c-mon-ref-the-lowdown ... i-1.239220
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vic wrote:Even Kerry Fraser is confused as to why Toffoli didn't get a suspension
Cause the NHL wants it's second largest market and defending Cup champs in the playoffs.

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vic wrote:Even Kerry Fraser is confused as to why Toffoli didn't get a suspension
This happens to be one of those times when I strongly disagree with the decision made by the good men in the Player Safety Committee not to take further disciplinary action against Tyler Toffoli of the Los Angeles Kings for his reckless cross-check delivered to the back of Alexandre Burrows of the Canucks on Saturday night.
Full article: http://www.tsn.ca/c-mon-ref-the-lowdown ... i-1.239220
Gotta love this comment...
As a Kings fan, I agree with this assessment. In addition, in between period they were jawing at each other and pushing and shoving. Obviously Toffoli let him get under his skin and in my estimation let emotions take over, if even for a split second.

Should have been a 1 or 2 game suspension.
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The really great news is that Toffoli go the game winning goal in the next game... :crazy: :crazy: :scowl:
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So does Buffy get suspended??
No call,what a joke
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