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I think it's good for Pettersson, it'll make him that much more determined ala Kole Lind after getting snubbed by Team Canada.
Elias won't get overworked as well, he'll be pissed and can work that much more harder to be the best he can be for September 2018 onwards.
Elias won't get overworked as well, he'll be pissed and can work that much more harder to be the best he can be for September 2018 onwards.
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Just an opinion, but I think Elias would have fit in just fine.SKYO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:58 pm I think it's good for Pettersson, it'll make him that much more determined ala Kole Lind after getting snubbed by Team Canada.
Elias won't get overworked as well, he'll be pissed and can work that much more harder to be the best he can be for September 2018 onwards.
This will NOT be a hard hitting, rock-em-sock-em Olympics.
It will be called tight and the team that can score the most will win, so, um, think they might regret their decision.
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Yeah....SKYO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:58 pm I think it's good for Pettersson, it'll make him that much more determined ala Kole Lind after getting snubbed by Team Canada.
Elias won't get overworked as well, he'll be pissed and can work that much more harder to be the best he can be for September 2018 onwards.
I was hoping four a historic five gold season though....
Växjö is leading the SHL and would be considered favourites to win the championship.
Växjö has also done well in the Pan-European Champions Hockey League and have reached the final.
Sweden had a very strong team for this year's WJC.
With the NHL boycott Elias, who has been leading the SHL in goals and points, could have hada shot at becoming an Olympian, and albeit Russia is probably the favourites to win, Sweden will be in the running.
And finally, as the goals and points leader of the SHL, Elias should have a shot at making the roster for the World Championship, where Sweden is always one of the favourites to win.
Well, the WJC gold is of course already stricken from the list, but he could at least have had a shot at medalling at all five events, which would still be a historic feat.
He could of course still be a last minute addition. They have kept two forward slots open on the Olympic roster, as the players they intended for them are currently injured. But I doubt it. Oh well. Guess it is what it is.
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2 goals last night. It seems that the Great Elias' transition yo centre has been a smooth one
Homeruns you say? I see at least 6 - Boeser, Pettersen, Gaudette, Demko, Juolevi, Tryamkin
Plus a whole bunch of triples and doubles
Homeruns you say? I see at least 6 - Boeser, Pettersen, Gaudette, Demko, Juolevi, Tryamkin
Plus a whole bunch of triples and doubles
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Who is this Danish/Norwegian guy, Pettersen, that everyone is talking about?
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You are talking to the same guy who has already figured out who the steals and busts are in the 2017 NHL draft. For instance in his world Petterson is the best player in the draft while Makar is already a bust. He also says it’s still too soon to pass judgement on the 2014 draft or the 2016 draft. Makes perfect sense eh ? Tryamkin and Virtanen were taken in the same draft and because Tryamkin is trending well he can be judged, but in Virtanens case he is struggling so it’s too soon to judge him. Makes perfect sense.Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:19 amAre you sure you don't want to see Pettersen, Gaudette, Demko, and Juolevi play at least a couple of regular season NHL games, first ?
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^^^^from the guy who says we lost on the Gudbranson trade. Like his stalwart ceiling projection of Sam Bennett, Harold McCann and Anton Rodin Asplund are already NHL superstars
Bennings asset management is looking brilliant in that case. Like the Garrison, Bieksa, Baertschi, Granlund, Lack, Pouliot, Burrows, Goldobin asset Mgmt manoeuvres
Bennings asset management is looking brilliant in that case. Like the Garrison, Bieksa, Baertschi, Granlund, Lack, Pouliot, Burrows, Goldobin asset Mgmt manoeuvres
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But why is it easier to judge the 2017 draft than the 2014 draft ? Shouldn’t there be a bit more data on the players from the 2014 draft ? You have repeatedly called Petterson the BEST player of his draft which happened six months ago , yet Virtanen got drafted almost four years ago but it’s still too soon to judge him.
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It's a known known and not a known unknown that power forwards take longer to develop.
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JV has struggled, no question. But, imo, we need to see how he does with top 6 players and ice time. Having linemates like Gaunce and Chaput only teaches him to be selfish, as he is playing with turnovers who make sbisa seem like a puck possession machine. Every pass to Gaunce leads to a hard backcheck.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:27 am But why is it easier to judge the 2017 draft than the 2014 draft ? Shouldn’t there be a bit more data on the players from the 2014 draft ? You have repeatedly called Petterson the BEST player of his draft which happened six months ago , yet Virtanen got drafted almost four years ago but it’s still too soon to judge him.
Even if JV ends up being a Brad May style grinder, that's OK. Every team needs one of those guys too.
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Cal Neely, Milan Lucic, Brendan Shanahan and Eric Lindros and a bunch of other guys say hi. Power forwards don’t take any longer to develop than anyone else. Nothing more than a myth. Im not sure if Virtanen is a real power forward either. Once in awhile he takes the puck hard to the net and sometimes he finishes his checks.
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Todd Bertuzzi says hi too. Mr. Bertuzzi did not fully develop into a power forward until he was 24/25. BTW, Cam Neely's first 50 goals season happened when he was 24/25. Lucic's first and the only 30 goals season happened when he was 22/23. Brendan Shanahan's first 50 goals season happened when he was 23/24. The only one that you can truly claim to be a power forward without development is Lindros.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:26 amCal Neely, Milan Lucic, Brendan Shanahan and Eric Lindros and a bunch of other guys say hi. Power forwards don’t take any longer to develop than anyone else. Nothing more than a myth. Im not sure if Virtanen is a real power forward either. Once in awhile he takes the puck hard to the net and sometimes he finishes his checks.
I am not saying Virtanen will definitely develop into a true power forward; however, I still think that we, fans, need to be patient with him.
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Yes, those guys hit their prime in their 20's, like almost every other NHL player. Neely was a 70-point player at 21. Shanahan had 30 goals and 70 points at 20. Lucic led his team in scoring at 23.Jovocop wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:11 am
Todd Bertuzzi says hi too. Mr. Bertuzzi did not fully develop into a power forward until he was 24/25. BTW, Cam Neely's first 50 goals season happened when he was 24/25. Lucic's first and the only 30 goals season happened when he was 22/23. Brendan Shanahan's first 50 goals season happened when he was 23/24. The only one that you can truly claim to be a power forward without development is Lindros.
I am not saying Virtanen will definitely develop into a true power forward; however, I still think that we, fans, need to be patient with him.
There's nothing wrong if Virtanen winds up as the Raffi Torres 3rd liner, capable of teasing of greater things but lacking consistency. He'll just have to deal with being compared with those taken after him. C'est la vie.
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Wendel Clark , Jarome Iginla.... then guys like Gary Roberts, Keith Tkachuk, Clark Gillies, Al Secord, Rick Tocchet, Shane Corson who ran over and bootfucked the league before staring to score at the ripe old age of 21-23.Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:56 amYes, those guys hit their prime in their 20's, like almost every other NHL player. Neely was a 70-point player at 21. Shanahan had 30 goals and 70 points at 20. Lucic led his team in scoring at 23.Jovocop wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:11 am
Todd Bertuzzi says hi too. Mr. Bertuzzi did not fully develop into a power forward until he was 24/25. BTW, Cam Neely's first 50 goals season happened when he was 24/25. Lucic's first and the only 30 goals season happened when he was 22/23. Brendan Shanahan's first 50 goals season happened when he was 23/24. The only one that you can truly claim to be a power forward without development is Lindros.
I am not saying Virtanen will definitely develop into a true power forward; however, I still think that we, fans, need to be patient with him.
There's nothing wrong if Virtanen winds up as the Raffi Torres 3rd liner, capable of teasing of greater things but lacking consistency. He'll just have to deal with being compared with those taken after him. C'est la vie.
Handpicking 50 goal seasons seems a bit disingenuous
I want Virtanen to succeed but when I think of power forwards I tend to think of the guys mentioned above. If he can be a middle six guy like a Hansen who hits harder Im ok with that. 30-40 points playing a strong two way game (because he is actually a strong defensive player) . For the life of me I don’t know why he isn’t getting some serious pk time.
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