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Agree they need Bieksa's toughness at times... but last years stats also show his penalty minutes. if you translate PIM to goals against .... ie 15 % of time in box = 1 goal against .. stats are not that hot.. and Willies stats go down when paired with Bieksa .. Coincidence ? I think not..... Lets h...

Short answer? hard to figure a value for the Sedin's ... game against Av's and Columbus ... maybe a bag of used pucks.. But overall they are good value for the buck.. Trade them........ sure if the deal is right but not just to get rid of them.. I'd like to see the team get tougher up front.. The Ed...

Sorry, couldn't disagree with you more :).. Time to get rid of " captain excuses " .. overpaid and underperforming for 3 years. Take a closer look at Bieksa - friggin terrible defensively.. Sedins are lousy when the going gets tough ( look at last years playoff figures. ) Mo is a good ( not Joe Saki...

fug the swedes............

No surprises... in tough games the Sedins are not effective.. I expect they'll do ok against Columbus. But guys a reality break is needed here .. Look at there stats from last years playoffs.. When the going gets tough the swedes disappear...

Colorado... without Foppa and Foote..... no playoffs ..... Now they are a contender

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Kesler is getting to be on my own personal UNTOUCHABLE list.. Looks a lot like Bob Gainey ( showing my age? ) on tonights game.. But really I don't think Nonis is going to blow a lot on a pure rental player - or should . BXA Cooke + pick for Sundin or Richards would make sense if a) Sundin will sign...

PS .. stats don't show difference between necessary ( smart ) penalties and unnecessary or dumb penalties ( out of position hooks etc.. ).. for that you just gotta watch the game

I've read behindthenet stats... only question is the dumb penalties are not taken into account when compiling stats... Of course Mitchells +/- suffered last year.. this years are far better being paired with Edler etc.. instead of Bieksa.. Not sold - sorry.. and forget the character and locker room ...

<i>I'm just curious - in your opinion, why do you feel that Bieksa is overrated? For me personally, Bieksa is one of those "character guys." Bieksa is well liked in the lockerroom, has great leadership ability, sticks up for his teammates, is physical, and has decent offensive skill. For me personal...

<i> Yes, there are those who are underachieving but they have been underachieving for a long time now, two seasons and more</i> and Naslund , cooke and Mo take over 10 million .. after next year your entitled to your sqwawk about no scorers.. 2006-2007 Nonis spent right up to the cap... this year we...

Keep Bourdon..... trade Bieksa plus Cooke plus pick ... for Richards.. Bourdon is developing into a first rate Dman. Bieksa is established and will be higher trade value - though personally I think he is highly overrated by Canucks fans ... deal like that would save cap space by dropping Bieksa's 3....

So, after the game opinion? Bieksa takes a penalty that gives the Pred's a PP goal . Attitude of f,,,, u comes with a price tag .. Canucks allow 50 shots against ? coincidence or a weaker D with Bieksa in? Bieksa also jumped up on a couple of plays and contributed to the offence.. dunno if its a goo...

7.9 mill is a lot of shekels for a guy who is playing between 2 top scoring forwards like St Louis and Vinnie and getting 15 goals and 32 assists.. Sounds like a Morrison sitting between Bert and Nazzie in their prime.. except for that big - If we can unload some cap space ( Bieksa ) it would still ...